<VV> GM,

George Jones 65crownv8 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 3 18:59:57 EDT 2010


Hank,

I won't get into the politics involved, but I will say this. My 2003
Silverado has not had to return to the dealership for service since I
purchased it. (It did great pulling a 24 foot overloaded trailer from
Virgina Beach to Orlando (6 trips)). Same goes for my wife's 2008 Saturn.
It's a shame that the Pontiac and Saturn lines have gone by the wayside. I
sure would have enjoyed owning one of the Solstice Coupes.

You are right about the Malibu seats though. I drove one from Orlando to
Virginia Beach and back. It took me playing with the adjustments for the
entire trip north to get the seat adjusted so it would be tolerable. The
return trip was much improved, but still not comfortable.

George Jones
--------------------------------
Eastern Division Director,
Corvair Society of America (CORSA)
'65 Monza Crown V8 Convertible
'66 Monza Coupe Custom


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:28 PM, <kaczmarek at charter.net> wrote:

> Mark
> Don't think so. In 2002-2004 I was working in a Chevy Dealership watching
> the cars and trucks come through service. I saw too many trucks and cars
> with too many things wrong with them.
>
> There is a wide disparity between the "high quality assemblies" you tout,
> and what ends up in the hands of the owner.
>
> You've obviously never spent any time trying to explain to customers why
> the replacement parts are so expensive.   A Passcode sensor that fails at
> 50K miles is going to cost the customer right around 500.00 to replace, plus
> new keys.  And they do fail with some regularity.  Got called everything but
> a fat white man by more than a few customers.
>
> I rent cars often for trips. Don't want to put the miles on my own.  The
> 2010 Impala had the most uncomfortable seats in a car I've ever sat in. My
> tail was numb in less than an hour of a 12 hour trip.   They TRIED to give
> me a Cobalt when my truck was hit.  They picked me up in one, and I told
> them I'm not driving this piece of junk.  So they gave me a 2010 Suburban.
>  Didn't like it a bit.  For my last trip they tried to give me an HHR.  I've
> driven them before, no  better than a Cobalt.  Got a Dodge Nitro instead.
>  Much happier with the result.
>
> If GM couldn't afford to stay in business, it should have been allowed to
> go under. That's called FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE.
>
> So jump down off your GM/ UAW horse, and realize that other people have
> opinions too.  I don't buy products from companies who are involved in these
> illegal government bailouts.
>
> Hank
> ---- Mark Corbin <airvair at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Hank,
> >
> > Obviously you have been asleep for the past half dozen years or so. Ever
> > since the introduction of the present Malibu, GM has been introducing new
> > car after new car that (starting with the Malibu) have met or exceeded
> the
> > quality of not only Ford, but even the foreign manufacturers like Toyota,
> > according to sources like JD Power, Consumer Reports, Insurance
> Institute,
> > etc.
> >
> > Also, GM has been paying back the government faster than expected, no
> > thanks to you or people like you, and been working to get out from under
> > that situation.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: <kaczmarek at charter.net>
> > > Subject: Re: <VV> Salesmen---No Corvair
> > >
> > > I don't like GM cars anymore.  The Trucks are junk compared to Fords,
> and
> > the cars don't measure up to ANY of the domestic competiton.  The import
> > competiton REALLY makes them look bad.   The last 5 new vehicles
> purchased
> > by my family have been Fords.  Happy with them all.
> > >
> > > Now, I CAN'T buy a GM car, because their biggest stockholder is our
> > government.
> > > Ford---NOT on the government dole, with better vehicles.   Wanda's
> Alero
> > has almost 150K on it---the replacement will probably be a Ford Fiesta.
> > > Hank
> > >
> >
>
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