<VV> modified vs stock: Ideal 'Cartesian' Corvairs ?

Wed Sep 15 15:10:33 EDT 2010

Question
What great prophet of Cartesian Dualism suggested that psychological phenomena can be reduced to a physical state, and insists there is no point of connection between the extended, and the unextended?

If Charles answers correctly, he will recieve the "Grand Prize"---

Those of you who are Python Fans, keep quiet. 

Hank

---- Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com> wrote: 
> There was a woman whose husband left her his antique coin collection, and 
> while waiting for the collector to appraise, them, she polished them all 
> nice and shiny.
> 
> So maybe even "restored better than stock" while may be the "ideal" toward 
> which even Descartes would have strived analytically, it is not as good as 
> an "unmolested original" ?
> 
> In other words (regarding the Cartesian reference), the perfectly restored 
> Corvair never actually existed, and is therefore not "real" ?
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Corbin" <airvair at earthlink.net>
> To: <AeroNed at aol.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Cc: "CORSA BoD" <corsabod at corvair.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:21 AM
> Subject: <VV> modified vs stock: World's Cheapest Corvair? AD
> 
> 
> > And I'm snickering right back at you, because, as you'll find out come
> > resale time, a stock antique car is (eventually) worth more than a
> > customized one. It's like saying that you have George Washington's 
> > original
> > hatchet. But in order to keep it nice, you've had to replace the head 
> > twice
> > and the handle three times. BUT IT'S STILL HIS ORIGINAL HATCHET! Yea,
> > right. History and originality has a value that a customize-only person
> > cannot possibly understand, or appreciate. It's a value that eventually
> > outpaces every custom job possible.
> >
> > Is it any wonder why there's a significant faction of CORSA that's 
> > offended
> > by the change in the name of the Concours classes, to call the
> > custom/modified classes the "Improved" class. What makes you think every
> > change from stock is an "improvement", or is the Corvair so defective from
> > the factory as to require such "improvements"? Isn't that a blatent insult
> > to those who happen to actually LIKE the stock Corvair, just as it came
> > from the factory? I think it is, and it's why I'm one of those who finds 
> > it
> > offensive. But then, pure customizers won't understand. They cannot
> > possibly understand. Which is why they (who are in control of CORSA)
> > refused to do anything about it. The powers that be are all customizers,
> > and incapable of understanding.
> >
> > For the record, I also happen to like custom cars as much as the next guy.
> > But I also appreciate stock cars, and I especially like to see unmolested
> > originals. They're only original once, you know. Even the best, most
> > exacting restoration possible (Bloomington Gold Corvette snobs aside) 
> > can't
> > make it original again. Try as they will, and they will spend a fortune
> > trying, it's STILL a restored car. THAT is why a stock car, and especially
> > a near-perfect original, will ALWAYS eventually be worth more than a
> > customized one.
> >
> > I happen to own two very nice original stockers, which I appreciate 
> > because
> > they ARE unmolested examples of what the factory built. They are living
> > history. But I just don't have enough money to own ALL the cars I'd like 
> > to
> > have, including the customs. And BTW, what money I DO have is going into
> > making a custom LM Corvair, my "project car" as I call it.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: <AeroNed at aol.com>
> >> Subject: Re: <VV> World's Cheapest Corvair? AD
> >>
> >> Mark,
> >>
> >> I'm not alone in the snickering in your direction. Even your fellow
> >> "stockers," you know the guy that drives an unimproved Corvair, are
> > laughing at
> >> you. We're actually happy that you (and Hank) choose to not recognize
> > that
> >> misnomer.
> >>
> >> I wonder why VV isn't a great attraction for new members to CORSA?
> >>
> >> Ned
> >>
> >> In a message dated 9/14/2010 9:52:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> airvair at earthlink.net writes:
> >>
> >> Boy, you  sure invited this one, Ned.
> >>
> >> Since ALL earlies are sedans, I could have  asked him how many doors. (G)
> >> Just saying "sedan" does NOT indicate how  many doors. And NO, not
> > EVERYone
> >> "knows" you'd be talking about a four  door. I for one refuse to 
> >> recognize
> >> that misnomer. And anyone who prides  themselves in using correct
> >> terminology doesn't, either. We just recognize  that we're listening to a
> >> bunch of bumpkins, and laugh at them behind their  backs. *snicker*
> >>
> >> In the words of Bugs Bunny, "what a  maroon...."   Hehehe.....
> >>
> >> -Mark
> >>
> >> > [Original  Message]
> >> > From: <AeroNed at aol.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: <VV>  World's Cheapest Corvair? AD
> >> >
> >> > Yup, that was JR in Chicago  (_hmlinc at sbcglobal.net_
> >> > (mailto:hmlinc at sbcglobal.net) ) and he did  say a  sedan (now I'm going
> > to
> >> get a lecture from Mark
> >> > about  what the real body style  name is despite the FACT that everyone
> >> knows
> >> > I'm talking about a 4 door).
> >> >
> >> > Ned
> >> >
> >
> >
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