<VV> VirtualVairs Digest, Vol 78, Issue 18... Re: last convertible; ;
Mike McCrae
mmccrae6 at cox.net
Wed Jul 6 13:56:34 EDT 2011
No one seems to comprehend the cost of restoration these days. Just the
engine alone can go $6,000 if you do it right. Right means complete head
overhauls with guides and seats, magged and turned crank, new forged
pistons, rings , bearings, resized and balanced rods, new cam, new cam
gears, new pushrods and lifters, bored and honed cylinders, all new gaskets
and seals (viton), powder coated parts,....on and on....go on look up the
prices....they scare me and I build the engines. After this you can start on
the rest of the car.
Mike McCrae
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: last convertible 5997 Humoriod! (Bill Hubbell)
2. Re: last convertible 5997 Humoriod! (Dave Keillor)
3. Re: last convertible 5997 Humoriod! (Bill Hubbell)
4. Re: last convertible 5997 Humoriod! (Dave Keillor)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:42:37 -0400
From: Bill Hubbell <whubbell at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> last convertible 5997 Humoriod!
To: Matt Nall <patiomatt at aol.com>
Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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But that fresh weatherstripping smells SO GOOD!
Bill
On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Matt Nall <patiomatt at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I have a pile of rust that used to be #6000. It is 100% original because
> it is
> unrestored. Of course, all of the (still original, of course)
> documentation to
> support my claim has also decomposed, but it is all here in this pile.
> Because
> it is such a historically significant car and 100% original I am asking
> $100,000.
>
> Bill Hubbell
>
>
> ===========================================================
>
>
> Might we have a picture of the weather stripping? Very important! LOL!!
>
>
> I find this discussion humourous... even in these retracted economic
> times....
>
>
> All these cry babies who will pay $100 for a $15 piece of
> weatherstripping..and feel good about it..
>
>
> Most likely they don't have $3800 in the bank...let alone $38k!
>
>
> Matt Nall
> Charleston, Oregon
> http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/reswr0kp/
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:42:48 -0500
From: "Dave Keillor" <dkeillor at tconcepts.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> last convertible 5997 Humoriod!
To: "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at verizon.net>, "Rick Norris"
<ricknorris at suddenlink.net>
Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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List it on ebay and I'll bid on it. If I win it maybe I'll donate it to
the CPF. :)
Dave Keillor
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hubbell [mailto:whubbell at verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:30 AM
To: Rick Norris
Cc: Dave Keillor; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Subject: Re: <VV> last convertible 5997 Humoriod!
I have a pile of rust that used to be #6000. It is 100% original because
it is unrestored. Of course, all of the (still original, of course)
documentation to support my claim has also decomposed, but it is all
here in this pile. Because it is such a historically significant car and
100% original I am asking $100,000.
Bill Hubbell
On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:48 AM, "Rick Norris" <ricknorris at suddenlink.net>
wrote:
>
> Boy oh boy!
> Just wait'll someone drags up #6000!
> (I parted it out years ago! Weather stripping was bad..)
> TLH
>
>> I'm disappointed to see such a historically significant car offered
at
>> such a low price. But that illustrates that the Corvair market is
>> currently being heavily influenced by the "frugals". The combination
of
>> almost two million built and its dramatic fall from grace led to a
>> unique situation of a huge oversupply of a unique automobile. Were
it
>> not for GM's clueless marketing, a Corsa might today command a 50%
>> premium over a Chevelle SS whose only claim to fame was some badges
and
>> a big engine.
>>
>> I'm also disappointed to see people taking shots at the car and its
>> seller. If you don't like the car or its price, you don't have to
buy
>> it for goodness sake. What's the point of castigating the car and
its
>> seller? Oh, I almost forgot, this list is inhabited largely by the
old
>> school frugals who think a Corvair price should not exceed four
figures.
>> Sorry.
>>
>> Dave Keillor
>>
>> As the owner of 5997 it is no ones business what I paid for the car.
I
>> did not buy it of ebay that was the prior owner and I paid
considerably
>> more than the above mention price for the car. Provenance and
historical
>> significance cost money if you want the first or last of anything . I
>> only own or buy nice rust free unique cars. Every one of my cars is
>> available for sale but they are not cheap. I do not have to sell them
I
>> am not coping an attitude but I do not have patience for
misinformation.
>> I enjoy Corvairs but as the market is changing. Their prices are
being
>> driven up by other collector cars and even at my asking price 5997 is
a
>> steal for a collector but not a typical Corvair owner that sill
thinks
>> he can buy a really nice convertible for 2500.00. If it sells it will
be
>> for my asking price or darn close to it.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:46:50 -0400
From: Bill Hubbell <whubbell at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> last convertible 5997 Humoriod!
To: Dave Keillor <dkeillor at tconcepts.com>
Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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I also have a bottle of air that was once breathed by Ed Cole himself. I
would like at least $50,000 for it.
Bill Hubbell
On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:42 AM, "Dave Keillor" <dkeillor at tconcepts.com> wrote:
> List it on ebay and I'll bid on it. If I win it maybe I'll donate it to
> the CPF. :)
>
> Dave Keillor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Hubbell [mailto:whubbell at verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:30 AM
> To: Rick Norris
> Cc: Dave Keillor; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> last convertible 5997 Humoriod!
>
> I have a pile of rust that used to be #6000. It is 100% original because
> it is unrestored. Of course, all of the (still original, of course)
> documentation to support my claim has also decomposed, but it is all
> here in this pile. Because it is such a historically significant car and
> 100% original I am asking $100,000.
>
> Bill Hubbell
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:48 AM, "Rick Norris" <ricknorris at suddenlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Boy oh boy!
>> Just wait'll someone drags up #6000!
>> (I parted it out years ago! Weather stripping was bad..)
>> TLH
>>
>>> I'm disappointed to see such a historically significant car offered
> at
>>> such a low price. But that illustrates that the Corvair market is
>>> currently being heavily influenced by the "frugals". The combination
> of
>>> almost two million built and its dramatic fall from grace led to a
>>> unique situation of a huge oversupply of a unique automobile. Were
> it
>>> not for GM's clueless marketing, a Corsa might today command a 50%
>>> premium over a Chevelle SS whose only claim to fame was some badges
> and
>>> a big engine.
>>>
>>> I'm also disappointed to see people taking shots at the car and its
>>> seller. If you don't like the car or its price, you don't have to
> buy
>>> it for goodness sake. What's the point of castigating the car and
> its
>>> seller? Oh, I almost forgot, this list is inhabited largely by the
> old
>>> school frugals who think a Corvair price should not exceed four
> figures.
>>> Sorry.
>>>
>>> Dave Keillor
>>>
>>> As the owner of 5997 it is no ones business what I paid for the car.
> I
>>> did not buy it of ebay that was the prior owner and I paid
> considerably
>>> more than the above mention price for the car. Provenance and
> historical
>>> significance cost money if you want the first or last of anything . I
>>> only own or buy nice rust free unique cars. Every one of my cars is
>>> available for sale but they are not cheap. I do not have to sell them
> I
>>> am not coping an attitude but I do not have patience for
> misinformation.
>>> I enjoy Corvairs but as the market is changing. Their prices are
> being
>>> driven up by other collector cars and even at my asking price 5997 is
> a
>>> steal for a collector but not a typical Corvair owner that sill
> thinks
>>> he can buy a really nice convertible for 2500.00. If it sells it will
> be
>>> for my asking price or darn close to it.
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:51:52 -0500
From: "Dave Keillor" <dkeillor at tconcepts.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> last convertible 5997 Humoriod!
To: "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at verizon.net>
Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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Not interested in the air, but if you have a genuine Ed Cole turd, I
would be really, really interested. That would be very historically
significant. Warning, though, if you think you can pawn off any old
piece of sh*t on me, I will have it tested by one of the turd DNA labs.
Dave Keillor
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hubbell [mailto:whubbell at verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:47 AM
To: Dave Keillor
Cc: Rick Norris; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> last convertible 5997 Humoriod!
I also have a bottle of air that was once breathed by Ed Cole himself. I
would like at least $50,000 for it.
Bill Hubbell
On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:42 AM, "Dave Keillor" <dkeillor at tconcepts.com>
wrote:
> List it on ebay and I'll bid on it. If I win it maybe I'll donate it
to
> the CPF. :)
>
> Dave Keillor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Hubbell [mailto:whubbell at verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:30 AM
> To: Rick Norris
> Cc: Dave Keillor; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> last convertible 5997 Humoriod!
>
> I have a pile of rust that used to be #6000. It is 100% original
because
> it is unrestored. Of course, all of the (still original, of course)
> documentation to support my claim has also decomposed, but it is all
> here in this pile. Because it is such a historically significant car
and
> 100% original I am asking $100,000.
>
> Bill Hubbell
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:48 AM, "Rick Norris" <ricknorris at suddenlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Boy oh boy!
>> Just wait'll someone drags up #6000!
>> (I parted it out years ago! Weather stripping was bad..)
>> TLH
>>
>>> I'm disappointed to see such a historically significant car offered
> at
>>> such a low price. But that illustrates that the Corvair market is
>>> currently being heavily influenced by the "frugals". The
combination
> of
>>> almost two million built and its dramatic fall from grace led to a
>>> unique situation of a huge oversupply of a unique automobile. Were
> it
>>> not for GM's clueless marketing, a Corsa might today command a 50%
>>> premium over a Chevelle SS whose only claim to fame was some badges
> and
>>> a big engine.
>>>
>>> I'm also disappointed to see people taking shots at the car and its
>>> seller. If you don't like the car or its price, you don't have to
> buy
>>> it for goodness sake. What's the point of castigating the car and
> its
>>> seller? Oh, I almost forgot, this list is inhabited largely by the
> old
>>> school frugals who think a Corvair price should not exceed four
> figures.
>>> Sorry.
>>>
>>> Dave Keillor
>>>
>>> As the owner of 5997 it is no ones business what I paid for the car.
> I
>>> did not buy it of ebay that was the prior owner and I paid
> considerably
>>> more than the above mention price for the car. Provenance and
> historical
>>> significance cost money if you want the first or last of anything .
I
>>> only own or buy nice rust free unique cars. Every one of my cars is
>>> available for sale but they are not cheap. I do not have to sell
them
> I
>>> am not coping an attitude but I do not have patience for
> misinformation.
>>> I enjoy Corvairs but as the market is changing. Their prices are
> being
>>> driven up by other collector cars and even at my asking price 5997
is
> a
>>> steal for a collector but not a typical Corvair owner that sill
> thinks
>>> he can buy a really nice convertible for 2500.00. If it sells it
will
> be
>>> for my asking price or darn close to it.
>>
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