<VV> Expensive Gasoline

jvhroberts at aol.com jvhroberts at aol.com
Thu Dec 13 17:22:13 EST 2012


 So, to sum up, under Obama, oil and gas production are up, domestically, but not under the oil man Dubya. 

Thanks for clarifying the obvious. 

 

John Roberts
 

 

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John,
    While fracking WAS intended to get more natural gas it has also increased our production of petroleum.  That's what's helping to reduce our import of oil.  But the big increase in natural gas has so dropped the price (compared to coal and oil) that some municipalities (such as Indianapolis) are beginning to convert their vehicles to run on that fuel instead of oil or gasoline.  Only a few years ago plans were made to construct liquified natural gas terminals so we could IMPORT natural gas to feed our growing need.  NOW, however, these plans are being changed to make EXPORT terminals to ship out natural gas to areas like the Far East where its price is now THREE times what it is in the USA.  No thanks to the 35 year-old Energy Dept. for these improvements, but I'm sure the government will take credit for them.
    "Oy gevalt"?   And a Happy Chanukah to you, John!!!
Frank Burkhard
Boonton, NJ    
 

In a message dated 12/11/2012 11:40:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jvhroberts at aol.com writes:

So,   it's private? Big deal. And fracking is primarily to augment natural gas   production. 

ME... Oy gevalt...



John   Roberts




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Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:37   pm
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While domestic oil production HAS increased it's all due   to PRIVATE efforts and not the Dept. of Energy.  It's called hydraulic   fracturing ("fracking") invented by PRIVATE individuals and done on PRIVATE   instead of government owned land.  
I didn't realize that Maine (ME)   had a significant oil production.  Thanks for sharing that with   us.

Frank Burkhard
Boonton, NJ


In a message dated   12/10/2012 8:46:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jvhroberts at aol.com   writes:
  
In all fairness, domestic oil production is up by ~30%   as compared to this time last   year. 

And the marketplace is   what drove imported oil. ME oil is cheaper to   recover and cheaper   to refine.   So...

  


  
John   Roberts
  


  


    
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Sent: Mon, Dec   10, 2012 8:38   pm
Subject: <VV> Expensive Gasoline Re:   CLEANING CONCRETE

  
Timothy,
    Don't   worry!  Our supremely wise and loving  government set up the   
Dept. of Energy a few years ago (35 to be exact) to reduce  our   dependency on 
imported petroleum.  With lots of hard work and   effort  they have managed to 
reduce it from 30% of all the oil we use   down to 50%.
    "We're from the government.  We're here   to  HELP you."
Frank Burkhard
Boonton, NJ


In a message   dated 12/10/2012 7:45:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,    
shortle556 at earthlink.net writes:

You  don't need to be brave   (unless your wife doesn't want you using her 
TIDE  laundry   detergent). Just don't let her catch you doing it. And don't use 
gasoline-   too expensive. I just bought some today for $3.07 per gallon 
(what a    ripoff).
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado    81301


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