<VV> Hot starting advice

chuck mckinley cmckinley313 at verizon.net
Sun Mar 18 12:37:51 EDT 2012


The car typically sits the order of 10-15 minutes (and stays hot.) I
only have to crank the engine for one second or less, just a couple
turns of the starter - as I say, it's really no big deal. It's just that
it starts with a big load of gas from the accelerator pump, so it starts
up with high rpm and makes me look like some kind of high-school Harry
in the parking lot! The choke has definitely come off by the time this
is happening. I guess I mis-stated the item about the unloader. I just
put in new plugs (NGK) gapped to .035 per instructions. I do not have
insulators under the carbs, just the thin gaskets that came with the
rebuild kits. I had the thick insulators on the car prior to the carb
rebuild, but they pretty much fell apart when I pulled the carbs, as
they'd been there for about six years. I got the rebuild kits from a
FLAPS, not Clark's, else I would have ordered the insulators. If they're
considered crucial I'll get a pair.

Chuck

On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 10:20 -0600, shortle wrote:
> Hi Chuck,
> Of course Bob Helts book on identifying and rebuilding Corvair Rochester carbs is invaluable and has helped me a number of times. 

> You failed to mention how long your car sits before this occurs and how long you have to crank the engine before it will start. 

> (When you mention "unloader" it leads me to think your car is actually cooled off enough for the choke to be involved). 

> Is your choke adjustment too stiff? Try disconnecting both choke rods after car warms up and see if this issue is still there? 

> Do you have the insulators under the carbs? 
> Do you have the correct spark plugs with the proper gap? Just a few thoughts from cold and chilly SW Colorado.
> Good luck and please post results and findings. 
> Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado
> PS You also maybe close to Corvair Master Technician Spence Shepherd if worse comes to worse
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: BobHelt at aol.com
> >Sent: Mar 18, 2012 10:02 AM
> >To: cmckinley313 at verizon.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org
> >Subject: Re: <VV> Hot starting advice
> >
> >chuck,
> >It could be any number of causes. Most likely is that the carburetors  
> >floats are set too high allowing the fuel in the bowl to be too high. This can  
> >cause engine heat to percolate the fuel and run raw gas into the engine 
> >after  shut off.
> >Another possibility is that you have carburetors that lack sufficient  
> >venting to disipate fuel fumes after a hot shut down. This is explained in  my 
> >book on H and HV carburetors. It wasn' t until 1964 that Chevrolet got the  
> >venting problem fixed. If that is your problem, then get a pair of 1964 or  
> >later carburetors for your engine.
> >Regards,
> >Bob Helt
> > 
> > 
> >In a message dated 3/18/2012 7:36:52 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
> >cmckinley313 at verizon.net writes:
> >
> >However,  when I drive somewhere far enough to get the engine warmed up
> >and then park  (on grocery runs, etc.), I have to use the technique of
> >flooring the  accelerator to engage the unloader to start it up again. It
> >always starts  without hassle, so maybe there's no real issue, but I'm
> >wondering if  there's any tweak that can be made to minimize  this
> >pattern
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