<VV> Expert witness info - Corvair included

Shelrockbored at aol.com Shelrockbored at aol.com
Tue Apr 16 23:47:21 EDT 2013


 
read/skimmed the narrative with interest.  What  one has to bear in mind 
with this kind of science is that  
 
things are never black and white, there is always  gray.  Maybe the 
government did find the earlies to be safe but does not  mean that there was no 
defect.  I came away with a new insight which I had  only partially realized.  
One car can get fouled up due on  a bad day.  Design flaw is much worse.  It 
would mean that they  would have to recall ALL the cards wiping out 
whatever profit they had  made. 
 
It's easy to call criticism an exercise composed of snake oil.  It is  much 
harder to say why.  When I read, "Unsafe at Any Speed" I  found that much 
of Nader's criticism made sense.  All points of view  should be considered 
not just one.  Even if he is wrong that is still a  point of view.
 
Steve Sassi
LICA

 

 
In a message dated 4/14/2013 12:41:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
corvairduval at cox.net writes:

I have a  different view, as I skipped to many pages deep before reading 
anything. I  can not say I would agree with any other ramblings he wrote, 
as I only  read this one so far.

I found his report on the Audi 5000. I agree with  everything he says on 
this particular subject.

I'll skip to the  chase:

All the unintended acceleration reports of the Audi 5000 were  just 
people stepping on the wrong pedal.

The only fault on Audi's  part was a slightly offset pedal placement from 
what was "normal" back  then.

Now for the good part, I have personal experience of steeping on  the 
wrong pedal, TWICE! Let me tell you it is hard to convince yourself  your 
foot is on the wrong pedal, even when the "brake" pedal is on the  floor 
and a solid object is getting bigger in your sight. Both time by the  
time I reacted and moved my foot to the correct brake pedal, I had  
stopped by the force of the unmoveable object. No, not a Corvair, but  
cars I wasn't used to driving, just moving around the shop. One was  
right hand drive. BTW, it was the clutch pedal I found with my right  
foot, not the accelerator pedal. One wasn't even running, just going  
down a slope. Enough for now, maybe the statue of limitations hasn't  
gone away yet.

Frank DuVal

On 4/14/2013 10:13 AM, Ken  Klingaman wrote:
> I read his first case late last night, and contrary  to other previous 
readings, I will not/can not reread this self promotional  drivel.
>
> As much as we, as a society, want to blame someone for  what happens, 
sometimes S**t happens. I can't comment on the accident  recreation, I was not 
there nor did we see all of his data.
>
>  Ken Klingaman
>
> For some reason, probably the outcome of a  Google search, I ended up at 
the
> Blog of a crash scene investigator.  He was a GM employee, worked on
> Corvair  lawsuit response, and  left GM. He eventually ended up on the 
"other
> side",  so to  speak. His name is Carl F. Thelin. A link to his musings 
is below.
> He  does  talk about many "events", as he calls them, as well as  
discussing
> the court  rituals he has experienced, etc. I am not  endorsing his
> suggestions, his  conclusions or even his  observations, but I found it 
interesting
> reading.  Plenty of  Corvair discussion is included. Some of it will, 
indeed
> piss you  off.  But that is what discussion is for, isn't it? - Seth  
Emerson
>
>  http://cxsi.blogspot.com/

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