<VV> Old tires

Mon Feb 11 16:44:35 EST 2013

Today's tires do degrade rather quickly. Used to be, and not th at long ago, th at good quality tires lasted longer and failed due to road hazards, mileage, punctures, etc, not age...    Same with windsh ield washer blades..These are cheap material and do not last. Certainly do not last like (real) rubber blades did. 

Chuck S 

BBRT 

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From: Shelrockbored at aol.com 
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:25:22 PM 
Subject: <VV> Old tires 

I never got a tire to last ten years nor have I ever owned a car that long   
until my present 2001 Dodge Durango which I purchased new two weeks before   
9-11.  In ten years I put 200,000 miles on it.  No tire will last that   
long. 

For a car that sits in the garage and goes only to shows (trailer queens   
would be even worse I'd imagine) I would think that the dry rot would get the 
 tires long before the ten year mark.  I don't need a tire expert to  tell 
me that. 

When as and if I ever get my Corsa going it will have the best possible   
tires on it since in my view one buys and owns a car to drive it.  And  while 
I'm not going to put 100,000 miles on it every five years the mileage will   
build up. 

SVS 

In a message dated 2/11/2013 1:30:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,   
bwschug at att.net writes: 

Gary - I  agree that this failure could have been caused by a road   
hazard, but  I doubt it was. Why do you think it wasn't caused by age?   
I agree  that the short side walls of these 35-series tires may have   
contributed to their demise, especially if their inflation pressure   
wasn't monitored carefully, although, with modern tire pressure   
sensors, that is less likely to be a contributing factor.  Anyone  who   
drives on nine-year old tires is asking for an accident. There  are   
many recommendations for how long tires are safe. Here's  the   
recommendation from Tire Rack: 

"Our experience has been  that when properly stored and cared for, most   
street tires have a  useful life in service of between six to ten   
years. And while part  of that time is spent as the tire travels from   
the manufacturing  plant to the manufacturer's distribution center, to   
the retailer and  to you, the remainder is the time it spends on your   
vehicle." 

If you haven't read this before from the Tire Rack's web  site, you   
should. Also see parts 2 and 3.   
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=138 

On  Feb 10, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Gary Swiatowy wrote: 

> From: "Ron"  <ronh at owt.com> 
> Subject: <VV> Old tires, Revisited (No  Corvair) 
> 
> The recent discussion regarding the use of older  tires became real   
> for me 
> yesterday when I didn't expect  it at all as I was just making a   
> quick trip 
> to the  store to buy some cat food. 
> Not in a Corvair, my Chrysler has only  11,000 miles on it and the   
> tires are 
> Michelin Pilot  255/35ZR19's speed rated at 186 mph.  Should be   
> pretty  safe, 
> right?  As I slowed down from 60 mph to exit the highway,  the ride   
> became 
> very rough but I continued to get off  the highway and exited   
> slowly.  After 
> driving 20  mph to a safe parking place, I found the right rear had   
> split  the 
> 
> sidewall on over a third of the circumference and could be  said to be 
> shattered.  Glad I wasn't going 150, but then I never  have. 
> Only 11,000 miles, but, nine years, that's the fatal flaw!   They   
> were well 
> cared for and the car had been parked  under shelter at all times but 
> apparently that's all they are good  for.  And those Michelin tires   
> go for 
> $355  each! 
> Many days I feel safer in my Corvairs and yesterday was one of  them   
> and my 
> wagon has new tires that only cost $60  each. 
> RonH - now relying on a reliable Rampside for backup while new  tires   
> are 
> ordered. 
>  ------------------------------ 
> 
> Your tire problem most likely  was not due to age. 
> You could have just as easily hit a road hazard  that made the tire   
> "air 
> out". 
> Continuing from  speed to a safe place to stop could just as easily   
>  caused 
> the rim to cut the sidewall. 
> 
> Seen many tires  over the years ruined because someone continued on   
> just 
>  enough to get off a road or to a safe place to change a tire. 
> 
>  Gary Swiatowy 
> 

Bruce 

Bruce W. Schug 
Membership  Chair, 
CORSA South Carolina 
CORSA member since 1980 
'67 Monza,  "67AC140" 
bwschug at att.net 

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