<VV> SF Quality Oil

[Mark Durham]

*Gary, I don't know if  you got a copy of the oil article I pulled of the
Corvette Forum last fall and put on VV about oils,, but it listed a number
of oils, this guy tested 44 of them, that contaned sufficient Zinc to be
considered for our engines. One of the top ten with the highest zinc and
lowest readings in a friction test that is readily available is the Quaker
State Defy High Mileage 10w30 SL oil also found at Wally's World, in my
area for 15.54 for 5 quarts. It is also a semi synethtic, and has some
additional Moly lube to help out the Zinc. The levels of Zinc and Phos as
well as the other additives for anti foaming, etc., are listed below in
this paste. *
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*One caveot, it is a high mileage oil and does have additives to keep your
seals from hardening, so I don't know if I would use it in a new engine for
that reason. *
**
*But I am using it in two newer vehicles, 03 and 04's with over 100K miles
on them and after my first run of 5K miles plus on two vehicles, the oil
has stayed remarkably clean. It is a SL rated oil and no starburst. *
**
*Here are the specs:*
**
*Quaker State 10W30 Defy, API SL* synthetic blend (lab tested 2012)
NOTE: An API SL rating is for 2004 and older automotive engines. This
rating was replaced by the API SM rating at the end of November 2004, when
the 2005 models were already available.

Silicon = 3 ppm (anti-foaming agent in new oil, but in used oil, certain
gasket materials and dirt can also add to this number)
Boron = 170 ppm (detergent/dispersant, anti-deposit buildup/anti-sludge)
Magnesium = 8 ppm (detergent/dispersant, anti-deposit buildup/anti-sludge)
Calcium = 2652 ppm (detergent/dispersant, anti-deposit buildup/anti-sludge)
Barium = 0 ppm (detergent/dispersant, anti-deposit buildup/anti-sludge)
*Total detergent/dispersant (anti-deposit buildup/anti-sludge) = 2830 ppm*
Zinc = 1221 ppm (anti-wear)
Phos = 955 ppm (anti-wear)
Moly = 99 ppm (anti-wear)
*Total anti-wear = 2275 ppm*
Potassium = 4 ppm (anti-freeze corrosion inhibitor)
Sodium = 0 ppm (anti-freeze corrosion inhibitor)
TBN = 6.5 (Total Base Number is an acid neutralizer to prevent corrosion.
Most gasoline engine motor oils start with TBN around 8 or 9. And in use,
this becomes depleted over time as mileage accumulates)
Viscosity (cSt at 100*C) = 11.7 (cSt range for SAE 30 is 9.3 to 12.4) And
cSt (centistokes) in general terms, represents an oil’s thickness

Regards  Mark Durham

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Gary Swiatowy <gswiatowy at rochester.rr.com>wrote:

> Yes, the ACCEL brand oil is on the shelves again at Wally World.
> It has been for about a year now.
> A year ago when I spotted it, I grabbed the 12 quarts that were on the
> shelf. A week later it was re-stocked and has been ever since.
> I had contacted Warren refinery 2 years ago to see where it could be
> purchased in my area when Wal Mart stopped carrying it. That's when I found
> that slow sales stopped Wal mart. But things change. Here it is $2.57 a
> quart.
> But if you can't find that, don't despair, as Dollar General carries a
> store
> brand which still has the zinc dialkyldithiophosphate in it (ZDDP). You can
> tell which one as it does not have the starburst logo and states "For use
> in
> vehicles 1988 and older." Two years ago, I contacted Dollar General
> requesting a technical data sheet for the oil. They had the refinery
> manager
> call me! Dollar General has exceptional customer service.
>
> If you are afraid of using an oil from brands that don't have name
> recognition. First, both of these oils are refined in the US using US
> drilled oil. You are not paying for a brand name and an additive package
> that does not include the zinc.
>
> As for the Brad Penn oil that is selling for $7.00 a quart. From what I
> have
> been able to determine, it is simply the formulation we used to get in the
> Kendall GT oil we used to pick up at case discount costs at Valu Home
> centers. Something like $12 per case and a $5 rebate. Amazing what a little
> marketing will do. This comes from ARG (American Refining Group)
>
> Sure, if you have only one hobby car, the annual oil change is not a huge
> expense. Buy Mobil 1 high mileage synthetic.
> But if you have a dozen oil changes to do like me. The Accel and Do Gen
> brands are the best deal going.
>
> Gary Swiatowy
>
>
> From: Ray Davis <scout1977 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: <VV> SF Quality Oil
>
> Several moons and many email messages ago, it was determined that API
> Service Category SF oil was one of the oils we could safely use in a
> Corvair
> motor .  The problem was finding it.  Wally World sold it for a while and
> then it disappeared from the shelves.  If I recall correctly, the
> distributor, Warren Performance indicated there was not enough call for it
> so it was being discontinued.  I was in Wally World earlier today and found
> it back on the shelf.  It is ACCEL branded 10W-40 and made in the USA.
> $2.47 a quart. The label indicates "SF Quality for Model Years 1988 and
> Earlier."  The stock may just be a quirk.  There was seven quarts on the
> shelf and I took six.  Let's see if it will be restocked. Ray "let it snow"
> Davis
>
>
>
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