<VV> Need help putting 140 block into PG

Mon Apr 21 21:45:27 EDT 2014

I tried this with a '65 convert some years ago in California. The engine ran but I had to use Low and really get on the pedal to get any decent acceleration out of the Powerglide. Someone at the time said the carbs from a manual 140 weren't right for a Powerglide; later, somebody else said the Powerglide's governor has to be changed for it to operate properly. See how it goes for you. 

But your plans for the Saginaw 4-speed mean the Powerglide is temporary, so "never mind." 

--Tom in Ohio

On Monday, April 21, 2014 8:53 PM, Harry Yarnell (Verizon) <harryyarnell at verizon.net> wrote:

110 manifolds won't fit on the 140 exhaust stacks.

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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:58 PM
To: 'J. R. Read'
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Subject: Re: <VV> Need help putting 140 block into PG

Don't have 140 exhaust -  that's why I want to use the 110 set to test ...

Charlie

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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 4:58 AM
To: Charlie; 'Rodney Spooner'
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Subject: Re: <VV> Need help putting 140 block into PG

Move the 140 engine over with dual exhaust intact and still attached to
engine.  Don't use the 110 exhaust.

Oil pan same unless someone put an aftermarket one on.

I'm not sure what sort of performance you get with a manual style 140
attached to a PG, but it will be drivable.

Later, JR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie" <chaz at properproper.com>
To: "'J. R. Read'" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>; "'Rodney Spooner'" 
<rodneyspooner at corvairgarage.com>
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 1:32 AM
Subject: RE: <VV> Need help putting 140 block into PG

> Right -  the car has a non-functioning 110 w/ PG and (for now) I want 
> to put the 140 in with the PG, just to get behind the wheel of a 
> Corvair after way too long, hopefully.
>
> So 2 issues (so far) :
>
> 1 a) 140 has dual exhaust, but it's not required (just to get it 
> running?)
> 1 b) I seem to recall (as you pointed out) that the exhaust ports are 
> bigger on a 140's manifolds, so the 110 single setup won't fit, right?
>
> 2) Need to change bell housing (got one)
>
> 3) Need to change out pilot bushing (thanks Matt)
>
> 4) Is oil pan different? I have both so I can compare when the sun 
> comes back up...
>
> Thanks!
> Charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org 
> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of J. R. Read
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:04 PM
> To: Charlie; 'Rodney Spooner'
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: <VV> Need help putting 140 block into PG
>
> I'm confused - you want to put a 140 into a PG car or a 4 spd manual car?
> Yep, the bell housings are different.  The exhaust is different 
> between a
> 110 and a 140.  The 140s are different between manual and PG trans.  4 
> degree crank retard on PG 140.
>
> So, please help us understand your intentions better.
>
> Thanks
> Later, JR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlie" <chaz at properproper.com>
> To: "'Rodney Spooner'" <rodneyspooner at corvairgarage.com>
> Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:11 PM
> Subject: <VV> Need help putting 140 block into PG
>
>
>> Hi Rodney Spooner and VV -
>>
>> Look time out of touch but I want to get back into a Corvair if 
>> possible ...
>>
>> I need help putting a 140 block that has a manual bell housing, etc, 
>> into my
>> 67 PG Monza.
>>
>> Can you tell me if the 110 stuff that I'm removing with the 110 will 
>> port over or do I need more/different parts?
>>
>> I bought a 140 block (reported to run) at GWFBT and I was going to 
>> convert to a Saginaw 4-speed (also bought there) but want to get it 
>> running to make sure the engine is good enough to go the Saginaw 
>> 4-speed route first.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> CC to VV also ...
>>
>> Charlie
>>
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