<VV> Removing 110 PG : ATF loss ? (engine should 'fall' onto rolling jack)

Charlie chaz at properproper.com
Wed May 28 11:18:57 EDT 2014


If the engine falls, it will fall on the platform that is on a rolling jack, as planned.  

What concerns me is (a) damaging the TQ by trying to pull it out without releasing the 3 bolts, and (b) loosing ATF when I pull the trans/engine to remove it.

Thanks for all the insights into pitfalls !
Charlie


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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:45 AM
To: hallgrenn; Harry Yarnell (Verizon); virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> FW: Question about removing 110 PG from 1967 Monza

It almost seems the way Charlie is going at this the engine is going to fall. On him. Hope I am wrong.
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301


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>From: hallgrenn via VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Sent: May 28, 2014 6:48 AM
>To: "Harry Yarnell (Verizon)" <harryyarnell at verizon.net>, 
>virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> FW:  Question about removing 110 PG from 1967 Monza
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>YES to all of Harry's points.  Especially pushing the front of the TC toward the front of the car.  Every PG drive train I've removed had just enough rust to bind the torque converter nub in the crank recess.  Clean and lube the nub and recess with a LITTLE swipe of grease when reassembling.
>Bob Hall
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><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Harry Yarnell 
>(Verizon) via VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org> 
></div><div>Date:05/28/2014  8:26 AM  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: 
>virtualvairs at corvair.org </div><div>Subject: <VV> FW:  Question about 
>removing 110 PG from 1967 Monza </div><div> </div>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Harry Yarnell (Verizon) [mailto:harryyarnell at verizon.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:11 AM
>To: 'BBRT'; 'Ray'
>Cc: 'Charlie'
>Subject: RE: <VV> Question about removing 110 PG from 1967 Monza
>
>Absolutely unbolt the torque converter. Pulling the engine with the TC 
>connected to the flexplate may damage the splines and create one unholy 
>mess of ATF.
>When you unbolt the three flexplate bolts push the torque converter 
>forward (towards the transaxle}. It should move maybe 1/8". This will 
>show you the TQ nub isn't stuck in the crankshaft.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: VirtualVairs [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf 
>Of BBRT via VirtualVairs
>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:17 PM
>To: Ray
>Cc: Charlie; virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> Question about removing 110 PG from 1967 Monza
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>I agree and just mentioned it to Charlie.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ray" <xramzl1 at yahoo.com>
>To: "BBRT" <chsadek at comcast.net>
>Cc: "Charlie" <chaz at properproper.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:06 PM
>Subject: Re: <VV> Question about removing 110 PG from 1967 Monza
>
>
>I wonder if the torque converter is unbolted or maybe binding in the 
>end of the crankshaft ?
>
>RCS
>
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>
>On May 27, 2014, at 9:15 PM, BBRT via VirtualVairs 
><virtualvairs at corvair.org> wrote:
>
>> So you removed bolts from the engine bellhousing to hte differential 
>> flange in addition othe start bolts (2). There should be another two 
>> bolts
>
>> on bottom, two on sides and another on top. They screw into the 
>> differential flange..9/16th Heads.
>> Sheet metal. Other than on top.. it isn't binding or is removed? Rear 
>> motor mount? PG Shift cable? Accel linkage on driver's side? Exhuast 
>> crossover isn't binding on anything?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie via VirtualVairs" 
>> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:02 PM
>> Subject: <VV> Question about removing 110 PG from 1967 Monza
>>
>>
>>> My "plan B" is to remove the 110 PG from my 1967 Monza and "plug in" 
>>> the
>>> 140
>>> case to the PG, to show the cops that it runs (which is all he needs 
>>> to go
>>> away.)
>>>
>>> Question is, now that the whole "top" (turkey roaster, carbs, oil 
>>> adapter,
>>> etc) is off the case, and the starter and bolts are all out, the 
>>> engine is just kinda just sitting there ready to slight it out 
>>> right?
>>>
>>> Wrong - no bolts holding it in, so I figure it's 
>>> torsion/tension/friction keeping it falling out onto the driveway?
>>>
>>> OK not quite that simple, but I figured a little tugging and it 
>>> would give it up, but I figure there's some other little thingy that 
>>> I'm not seeing that's snagging my plan?
>>>
>>> I know things have to line up pretty closely to get the engine back 
>>> in, but I thought getting it out would be the easy part.
>>>
>>> Any hints about what I can't see from here?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>>
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