<VV> Starter Mystery

[Joel McGregor]

I obviously didn't proof what I wrote.
I wrote " The drive in a standard Corvair starter is commonly referred to as a Bendix although it technically is not because it uses a spiral shaft to keep the gear engaged."
I meant to say it uses a spiral shaft like a Bendix but doesn't use a wind up return spring so it isn't technically a Bendix.  
It is pretty close to a Bendix but uses the solenoid to provide engagement and also postpone the starter motor spinning until the gear is extended instead of using the gear's inertia.
The wiki article seems to be a pretty good description of what the patent says.  Where is it off?
Joel McGregor


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Becker [mailto:mr.jebecker at gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: <VV> Starter Mystery

A Bendix drive does use a spiral shaft (but not a solenoid).  That WIKI article is messed up.  It had a valid description prior to somebody editing it in Feb 2011.  Don't take my word for it.  Read the actual 1916 Bendix patent cited in the Wiki article.

Jim Becker

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel McGregor via VirtualVairs
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 12:26 PM
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re:  Starter Mystery

I seriously doubt the aftermarket starter actually uses a Bendix drive.  You also said no spring is involved.  What keeps the gear from grinding on the ring gear all the time?  A true Bendix uses a spring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bendix_drive
The drive in a standard Corvair starter is commonly referred to as a Bendix although it technically is not because it uses a spiral shaft to keep the gear engaged.
Are you claiming that the aftermarket starters ram the fully spinning starter gear into the ring gear and just count on inertia to keep it there? 
No solenoid action?  If that is how they are built I wouldn't want one. 
That would be really hard on the teeth.

Joel McGregor

-----Original Message-----
From: VirtualVairs [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Dale Smiley via VirtualVairs
Subject: Re: <VV> Starter Mystery

The stock Corvair Starter DOES NOT use a "Bendix Gear" assembly to engage the Starter!
The Hi-Torque Starter uses a 'Bendix Gear' assembly that uses the Starter Motors rotation to make the starter gear engage the flywheel gear. When the engine starts the flywheel gear 'throws' the Bendix Gear back to the Starter. There is no spring involved and I believe it takes the 'kick' from the flywheel when the engine starts to return it to its 'normal' position.
If the engine doesn't start the Bendix Gear may not return to is 'rest' 
position!
Regards,
Dale Smiley (oldqmguy)