<VV> Break light juice

[shortle]

Thank you Joel for the good information. And to think I didn't even know there was a "MOTHER THERESA AWARD" given. My education is still on going.
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301


-----Original Message-----
>From: Joel McGregor via VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Sent: Jan 15, 2016 9:16 PM
>To: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Subject: Re: <VV> Break light juice
>
>Juice was actually referring to voltage not current.  If he was testing current an ammeter would have been used not a test light.   I realize a test light does require some current flow but not enough to test if the current is sufficient for the brake/turn filament.
>
>Joel McGregor
>
>
>
>-------- Original message --------
>From: Jim Becker via VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Date: 1/14/2016 4:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
>To: Smitty <vairologist at cox.net>, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: Break light juice
>
>Let me put to rest everyone's concern that I don't know what the word
>"juice" meant in this context.  It is worthy of note that several people
>considered the word unclear, pointing another problem in the original post.
>I even figured that "rest light was a "test light".  This is in spite of his
>first post where "rest light" could have meant "rest of the lights".  No, my
>problem was the phrase "do the bulb socket with a ground to the battery
>terminal".  Is "do" supposed to be a verb?  Is he asking "Does the bulb
>socket ground to the battery terminal."?  If so, he neglected to start a new
>sentence and used the wrong verb form.  But it does seem like a reasonable
>question.  Maybe his only past electrical work involved a dome light.
>
>Was the word "do" intended as the word "of"?  If so, it required 2
>simultaneous typos, invert 2 letters and hit the wrong key at the same time.
>If so, he was trying to write "I'm testing at the wire that runs into the
>bottom of the bulb socket with a ground to the battery terminal."  By that,
>did he mean that he put one end of a jumper wire on one or the other of the
>wires to the bottom of the socket and put the other end on a battery
>terminal?  Not the best diagnostic technique, but I've seen worse.  I
>suppose he was still using the rest light at that point.  I think it is a
>pretty safe bet that 99 out of 100 people wouldn't agree on the meaning of
>"do the bulb socket with a ground to the battery terminal".  Another problem
>with his post was what he didn't mention at all.  He never said whether the
>right turn signal worked.  Simply stating that would have split the possible
>problem area into two nearly disjoint pieces.
>
>I frequently see comments like your "as long as the two communicators
>understood one another".  Unfortunately, they frequently don't understand
>each other.  I frequently see ambiguous questions posted on the internet,
>open to several interpretations.  I also see plenty of detailed answers that
>somebody spent a bunch of time composing.  As often as not, the original
>poster came back with a follow up question that revels the person replying
>guessed the wrong question and his time was wasted.  It is NOT no harm, on
>foul.  That is one of the reasons you don't see a lot of replies from me.  I
>try not to waste my time answering the wrong question.
>
>Go back and look at the dozen or so responses that have accumulated on the
>original question.  About half the responses are talking about a problem
>with the socket and the others about the turn switch.  If the PO follows up
>to let us know if the bulb lights up with the turn signal, we will know
>which half of us were wasting our time with a non-applicable response, far
>from 99% guessed right.
>
>Jim Becker
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Smitty via VirtualVairs
>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 2:39 PM
>To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject:  Break light juice
>
>Smitty says;  Jim, the post concerning the source of power for the brake
>lights was a bit difficult to decipher because of the typos and I can agree
>that we must be careful of fat fingers when posting.  But I take good
>humored exception to you adding a complaint about the term Juice for
>electricity, power, current, or whatever.  Some 65 years ago I was working
>as an apprentice with a licensed electrician.  He constantly spoke of juice
>when trouble shooting.  Even in a three year electronics/electricity course
>I took nobody ever objected to use of the term.  Slang or alternate terms
>have always been with us and will continue after we are gone.  No Matter, as
>long as the two communicators understood one another.  We can use the terms,
>boomarang, hockey stick, and even the GM/Clarks use of drag link for the
>relay rod.  (which is absolutely wrong), and no harm,no  foul as long as
>folks understand each other.  I’m not going to waste time and space taking a
>vote on this forum but I’ll bet 99 out of a hundred understood exactly what
>he meant using the term Juice.
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