<VV> Turbo Packaging

[Hugo Miller]

"> Lots of times they settled for what they could sell to the 
accountants and get produced, regardless of what would have been 
'best'."
That is a very important point. It is easy to build a good car if money 
is no object (Bristol, RR, in England). The real skill lies in designing 
and building a 'cheap' car that actually does its job properly. And of 
course GM churned out inexpensive mass-produced cars. Considering the 
compromises this entails, and despite engineering which is sometimes 
'agricultural' in contrast to the elegance of the Europeans, these cars 
do their job very well indeed, as the number of 50- and 60-year-old cars 
still on the road bears testimony..
My '64 Corvair convertible PG is now my daily driver in Florida, and it 
does its job every bit as well as any modern car, only without all the 
electronic complications and unneccessary gizmos and distractions. The 
only thing it doesn't do is depreciate.


On 2020-03-29 09:12, Jay Maechtlen via VirtualVairs wrote:
> On 3/28/2020 3:23 PM, Matt wrote:
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>> *From: *Jay Maechtlen <mailto:jaysplace at laserpubs.com>
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>> Yeah, I saw that pic - should be pretty entertaining!
>>
>> My thought were more for those working with a semi-standard turbo 
>> motor
>>
>> - the things that could be done without a complete revamp. For 
>> yours, is
>>
>> there enough drainage from the turbo ? Are you going to the valve 
>> cover,
>>
>> or down to the oil pan?
>>
>> Jay, not meant to be ”entertaining”   This is how Chevrolet 
>> should’ve packaged the turbo engine!   NO HEATED AIR feeding the  
>> COOLING FAN!   No need to raise the car 3ft. to get the engine out in 
>> one piece! And, of course,  there is enough   fall to drain the 
>> turbo!  Otherwise I Wouldn’t have gotten this far.
>>
> Sorry - I did not mean your effort is entertaining - I mean that the
> car , with that engine, should be pretty entertaining!
>
> In some sense they should have built it that way, but any number of
> things weren't available at that time, and the cost would probably
> have been prohibitive.
>
> Lots of times they settled for what they could sell to the
> accountants and get produced, regardless of what would have been
> 'best'.
>
> Indeed, they could have used the water/alcohol packages that was used
> in the Olds turbo, but perhaps that wasn't enough to survive full
> throttle upshift with the other stuff they had available.
>
>
>
>> Matt Nall
>>
>> Sea Mountain
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>> SW  Oregon Coast
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>> On 3/15/2020 10:51 PM, Matt via VirtualVairs wrote:
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>> > Jay…read the oldest mail first!!  I just posted this pic of my 
>> current build!
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Matt Nall
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>> > Sea Mountain
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>> > SW  Oregon Coast
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>> > Sent from Mail for Windows 666
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>> > From: Jay Maechtlen via VirtualVairs
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>> >
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>> > On 3/15/2020 2:46 PM, Matt via VirtualVairs wrote:
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>> >>     Said the same thing at Flagstaff in 2002…and when I asked him 
>> about a Waste gate…. They didn’t know about them at the time.  IIRC…   
>> Tom Keo. Wasn’t there to tell people about his success by referencing 
>> YH  Needle position to boost.
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>> > ===============================================
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>> > yeah, when you don't have (or the budget doesn't permit) waste 
>> gate or
>>
>> > blowoff valve, you're stuck with whatever the turbo wants to do.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > - those things are available and cheap-ish nowadays. Wouldn't take 
>> much
>>
>> > to add a blowoff valve to the delivery pipe from turbo to 
>> crossover, or
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>> > to the crossover itself. Dumped unburned air-fuel mix should go 
>> outside
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>> > of the engine compartment - or possibly back to the air cleaner, 
>> and
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>> > call it enrichment?
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