<VV> Removing/windshield

Sat Jan 16 00:24:39 EST 2021

Randy I am going to run afoul with some/of my friends here but you are asking for opinions, so here’s mine.  Don’t pry on anything.  Not even a small spot.   get yourself a small wire wrapped guitar string.  Very flexible and the wire wrap will act as a saw for the sealant.  Carefully cut a hole through the sealant to where you can pass the wire through to the other side of the glass.  Make a couple of handles out of one half or three quarter dowel.  Drill a small hole through the middle of them to tie the ends of the wires to.  Saw the wire by pulling at a long angle from where it passes under the glass.  You want the pressure applied to the sealant,not the edge of the glass.  On the long run at the center of the top and bottom if you can’t find a helper, tie some small rope to the handles to allow you to pull from the other side of the car.  Patience is a virtue.

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>   2. Re: glass question (Harry Yarnell)
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>   5. Re: glass question-part 2 (Harry Yarnell)
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 12:34:40 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Randy (Cap'n) Hook" <judynrandy at comcast.net>
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> Subject: <VV> glass question
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> I have a question.  What, exactly, would be the best way to remove a windshield and back window from a '65 4-door?  Numerous people have said to "use a piece of 'piano wire' ", but no one who suggested it had ever done it that way.  So, where does one GET a piece of 'piano wire'? A friend mentioned a tool Napa sells to accomplish this task.  I got one.  It works, sort of.  The problem is that the black goop they glue the windows in with has pertified and is as hard as concrete.  A friend gave me a very small piece of braided wire.  This worked for about 5 inches, then frayed and broke.  These glass items are tinted glass and I really don't want to break them, as that would ruin the complete set.   Anyhow, I was wondering.........are there any chemicals I could soak the black goop with to make it softer and easier to cut through?  I thought about trying to lace it with a little gasoline, but don't want to hurt the tinted glass.  All thoughts and opinions welcome.  I need help with thi
> s one.
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> Randy (Cap'n) Hook
> '69 Monza coupe
> '65 500 coupe
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:14:25 -0500
> From: "Harry Yarnell" <harryyarnell at verizon.net>
> To: "'Randy \(Cap'n\) Hook'" <judynrandy at comcast.net>, "corvair"
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> Use hood release cable/ wire from a late GM car.
> Just cut it in the engine bay and pull it out from inside the car.
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> I have a question.  What, exactly, would be the best way to remove a
> windshield and back window from a '65 4-door?  Numerous people have said to
> "use a piece of 'piano wire' ", but no one who suggested it had ever done it
> that way.  So, where does one GET a piece of 'piano wire'? A friend
> mentioned a tool Napa sells to accomplish this task.  I got one.  It works,
> sort of.  The problem is that the black goop they glue the windows in with
> has pertified and is as hard as concrete.  A friend gave me a very small
> piece of braided wire.  This worked for about 5 inches, then frayed and
> broke.  These glass items are tinted glass and I really don't want to break
> them, as that would ruin the complete set.   Anyhow, I was
> wondering.........are there any chemicals I could soak the black goop with
> to make it softer and easier to cut through?  I thought about trying to lace
> it with a little gasoline, but don't want to hurt the tinted glass.  All
> thoughts and opinions welcome.  I need help with thi
> s one.
> 
> Randy (Cap'n) Hook
> '69 Monza coupe
> '65 500 coupe
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 13:34:24 -0600
> From: John Beck <jb30343 at windstream.net>
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> I've had mixed results with piano wire.? If your not careful / lucky it 
> can score the edge of the glass and become a crack.? You can buy it in 3 
> foot lengths at the hardware store or, if you know any guitar players 
> just ask them for a few broken E strings.? --J.B.
> 
> Randy (Cap'n) Hook via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> I have a question.  What, exactly, would be the best way to remove a windshield and back window from a '65 4-door?  Numerous people have said to "use a piece of 'piano wire' ", but no one who suggested it had ever done it that way.  So, where does one GET a piece of 'piano wire'? A friend mentioned a tool Napa sells to accomplish this task.  I got one.  It works, sort of.  The problem is that the black goop they glue the windows in with has pertified and is as hard as concrete.  A friend gave me a very small piece of braided wire.  This worked for about 5 inches, then frayed and broke.  These glass items are tinted glass and I really don't want to break them, as that would ruin the complete set.   Anyhow, I was wondering.........are there any chemicals I could soak the black goop with to make it softer and easier to cut through?  I thought about trying to lace it with a little gasoline, but don't want to hurt the tinted glass.  All thoughts and opinions welcome.  I need help with t
> hi
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>> Randy (Cap'n) Hook
>> '69 Monza coupe
>> '65 500 coupe
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> From: George Jones <65crownv8 at gmail.com>
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> I've used both and like the glass removal tool. Dig out as much of the old
> mastic as possible by scoring with a box cutter down to the metal. Pry it
> out CAREFULLY with a small screwdriver. Insert the tool blade under the
> glass and spray the mastic with WD-40 to loosen it up a bit.  Proceed
> slowly and carefully around the glass paying particular attention to the
> angle of the tool. Keep the handle perpendicular to the glass. Wear gloves,
> it's messy with the WD-40.
> 
> George Jones
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>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 2:34 PM John Beck via VirtualVairs <
>> virtualvairs at corvair.org> wrote:
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>> I've had mixed results with piano wire.  If your not careful / lucky it
>> can score the edge of the glass and become a crack.  You can buy it in 3
>> foot lengths at the hardware store or, if you know any guitar players
>> just ask them for a few broken E strings.  --J.B.
>> 
>> Randy (Cap'n) Hook via VirtualVairs wrote:
>>> I have a question.  What, exactly, would be the best way to remove a
>> windshield and back window from a '65 4-door?  Numerous people have said to
>> "use a piece of 'piano wire' ", but no one who suggested it had ever done
>> it that way.  So, where does one GET a piece of 'piano wire'? A friend
>> mentioned a tool Napa sells to accomplish this task.  I got one.  It works,
>> sort of.  The problem is that the black goop they glue the windows in with
>> has pertified and is as hard as concrete.  A friend gave me a very small
>> piece of braided wire.  This worked for about 5 inches, then frayed and
>> broke.  These glass items are tinted glass and I really don't want to break
>> them, as that would ruin the complete set.   Anyhow, I was
>> wondering.........are there any chemicals I could soak the black goop with
>> to make it softer and easier to cut through?  I thought about trying to
>> lace it with a little gasoline, but don't want to hurt the tinted glass.
>> All thoughts and opinions welcome.  I need help with thi
>>>  s one.
>>> 
>>> Randy (Cap'n) Hook
>>> '69 Monza coupe
>>> '65 500 coupe
>>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:25:38 -0500
> From: "Harry Yarnell" <harryyarnell at verizon.net>
> To: "'Randy \(Cap'n\) Hook'" <judynrandy at comcast.net>, "corvair"
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> Subject: Re: <VV> glass question-part 2
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> Available at the Men's Mall; 'free' and the best part, it has a handle on
> one end.
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 22:11:08 -0500
> From: FrankDuVal <corvairduval at cox.net>
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> I've been able to break windshields with wire and the special tools! Be 
> careful. Apply NO pressure to the glass. As George says, the tool must 
> be 90 degrees to the glass, or the knife blade under the glass will rise 
> up on an edge and break the glass.
> 
> I have ground the knives to a razor blade thickness (yes, they can break 
> easy being thin) to slip through tough windshield bedding easier.
> 
> If you use the wire, a wooden dowel makes a good handle. With Harry's 
> idea, you just need to add a handle to one end.
> 
> Frank DuVal
> 
>> On 1/14/2021 3:03 PM, George Jones via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> I've used both and like the glass removal tool. Dig out as much of the old
>> mastic as possible by scoring with a box cutter down to the metal. Pry it
>> out CAREFULLY with a small screwdriver. Insert the tool blade under the
>> glass and spray the mastic with WD-40 to loosen it up a bit.  Proceed
>> slowly and carefully around the glass paying particular attention to the
>> angle of the tool. Keep the handle perpendicular to the glass. Wear gloves,
>> it's messy with the WD-40.
>> 
>> George Jones
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 2:34 PM John Beck via VirtualVairs <
>> virtualvairs at corvair.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've had mixed results with piano wire.  If your not careful / lucky it
>>> can score the edge of the glass and become a crack.  You can buy it in 3
>>> foot lengths at the hardware store or, if you know any guitar players
>>> just ask them for a few broken E strings.  --J.B.
>>> 
>>> Randy (Cap'n) Hook via VirtualVairs wrote:
>>>> I have a question.  What, exactly, would be the best way to remove a
>>> windshield and back window from a '65 4-door?  Numerous people have said to
>>> "use a piece of 'piano wire' ", but no one who suggested it had ever done
>>> it that way.  So, where does one GET a piece of 'piano wire'? A friend
>>> mentioned a tool Napa sells to accomplish this task.  I got one.  It works,
>>> sort of.  The problem is that the black goop they glue the windows in with
>>> has pertified and is as hard as concrete.  A friend gave me a very small
>>> piece of braided wire.  This worked for about 5 inches, then frayed and
>>> broke.  These glass items are tinted glass and I really don't want to break
>>> them, as that would ruin the complete set.   Anyhow, I was
>>> wondering.........are there any chemicals I could soak the black goop with
>>> to make it softer and easier to cut through?  I thought about trying to
>>> lace it with a little gasoline, but don't want to hurt the tinted glass.
>>> All thoughts and opinions welcome.  I need help with thi
>>>>   s one.
>>>> 
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