[FC] Brakes and Rear Motor Mount

Mon Jan 18 23:42:16 EST 2010

Greetings to all!  

I j ust had a complete brake job done on the Greenbrier Dormobile Camper I picked up in November.  It had a very recent dual master cylinder installation but everything else was spent .  I did not have the time to do it myself so I had it done by a gentleman in Horsham, PA recommended by members of the Philadelphia Corvair Association (PCA) .  Four  drums, 4 brake shoe sets (semi-mettalic), 4 wheel hoses, 4 wheel cylinder rebuild kits, all  from NAPA were around $500, Labor was $350. C lark's price for equivalent parts plus shipping was $420, in retrospect, I could have saved $80 as he was willing to wait for me to bring him the parts .  He showed me all the parts that came off it. T he hoses were near failure ( possibly original), some brake shoes were bonded, some rive ted, it was a real horror show.  No wonder it pulled right, then left, then right with any application of the brakes.  Now, I can stand on the brake pedal at any speed without leaving the roadway, tracks straight and even stops well  (a bonus).  It is now my daily driver / restoration project.  Mechanic:  Jim, J.M.'s Vehicle Repair, Inc., 368 Easton Road, Horsham, PA 19044 (215) 674-5775. 

On another matter, the rear motor mount is displaced to the right to the point where the top retainer disk nearly contacts the inside of the housing (about 1/2 inch off center?).  I am guessing that the bottom retainer has slipped or is not present.  Anyone have any experience with this?  The van drives straight and rides solid.  Motor appears to be a 1966 twin carb car motor (numbers not yet verified). 

Kent Harrington 

'64 Greebrier Dormobile, '63 Monza Vert 

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Today's Topics: 

   1. Ben's Bus Website is brand new! (Ben and Lynn Stiles) 
   2. brakes line (wern3 at juno.com) 
   3. Re: brakes line (rampeyboy at aol.com) 
   4. Re: brakes line (Steven) 

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Message: 1 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:54:41 -0500 
From: "Ben and Lynn Stiles" <lbstiles at verizon.net> 
Subject: [FC] Ben's Bus Website is brand new! 
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Hello all! 

The Ben's Bus Corvair FC website has been remodeled from top to bottom with new pictures, links, and information on our Corvair van, Rampside, and Scotty camper and all things pertaining to Corvair FC campers. It is the most extensive Corvair camper website on the internet! 

Some new stuff of interest includes scans of a '61-62 Greenbrier accessories brochure (featuring the elusive "child's bed"), advertisements for the #5402 Coleman picnic stove sold with the '61-62 GM kit and the upright Coleman Station Wagon icebox sold with the '63-65 GM kits, a new photo gallery of all kinds of FC campers including all of the GM kits, Traville Campsides, Dormobiles, and many homebuilt versions (even a teardrop trailer built and towed to Buffalo with a Corvair convertible!) and updated information in general. 

If you haven't been on it, or haven't been on it in a while, check it out. Lynn has done a great job of making it new again. 

http://mysite.verizon.net/bensbus/index.htm 

Please send me any FC camping information you may have to add to the site, but for now...Enjoy! 

Ben and Lynn 

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:07:37 GMT 
From: "wern3 at juno.com" <wern3 at juno.com> 
Subject: [FC] brakes line 
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Bill 
I finished my '61 last year and had a terrible time getting that front brake line replaced. I attempted to replace by buying straight lines and then cutting and bending to fit. That was a total failure after making 2 of the units and neither would seal. The shape of the line and its path through the front suspension is a tortured route. Take it from me and buy clarkes pre- bent line, you won't regret it and while you are at it I would replace the whole system including the master cylinder. Many of those parts are 40 years old, and you are contributing the labor (which is more than half the cost of a brake job) so I always advise using new parts as much as possible. Good luck!! 
Tim W '61 Rampy 
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:30:35 EST 
From: rampeyboy at aol.com 
Subject: Re: [FC] brakes line 
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I wonder how hard it is to route the pre bent ones  through the suspension? 
I used straight lines, bent what I could on the  workbench using the old 
line as a pattern, but some I bent in place, just  because it was easier that 
way. 
    Trying to conserve money, I rebuilt the original  master cylinder 
thinking it would be cheaper, and quicker. Thinking back, I  could have upgraded 
to the dual reservoir cheaper than rebuilding my OE one.  Plus I would have 
a warranty on the replacement. In the end, it wouldn't have  taken any 
longer because I was replacing all the metal lines anyway. I kinda  screwed 
myself on that deal. 

Boyce 

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:57:31 -0500 
From: "Steven" <steven at sashimi.org> 
Subject: Re: [FC] brakes line 
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Converting to a dual MC is a very easy morning or afternoon job using 
Clark's prebent front lines.  The truck is high enough off the ground that I 
was able to get underneath and do it in my driveway.  Routing the prebent 
lines wasn't an issue.  The only "trick" that I recall was to leave the MC 
to frame bolts loose so that I could move the MC around in order to make it 
easy to mate the threads for the lines. 

- Steve B. 

'62 Rampside 

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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [FC] brakes line 

>I wonder how hard it is to route the pre bent ones  through the suspension? 
> I used straight lines, bent what I could on the  workbench using the old 
> line as a pattern, but some I bent in place, just  because it was easier 
> that 
> way. 
>    Trying to conserve money, I rebuilt the original  master cylinder 
> thinking it would be cheaper, and quicker. Thinking back, I  could have 
> upgraded 
> to the dual reservoir cheaper than rebuilding my OE one.  Plus I would 
> have 
> a warranty on the replacement. In the end, it wouldn't have  taken any 
> longer because I was replacing all the metal lines anyway. I kinda 
> screwed 
> myself on that deal. 
> 
> Boyce 
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