[FC] wiring harness
RON BLOOM
bloomaz at msn.com
Thu Jun 23 21:15:25 EDT 2011
Good evening everyone
You might want to check your main wiring harness on the left side of the eng. There is a black? wire If i remember correctly. that feeds main power to the front end . If you pull that plug assy apart you might find some corrosion or even some burning going on. Mind was a hit n miss, until one day I touched it and said self,, this thing is away to warm, discolored, and some of the terminals was just barely touching. and sure enough, replaced it and it runs great now..
62 Greenbrier slushy 110
64 110 open
Ron
Tucson, Az
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> 5. Re: Genuine FC steel wheels. (Andrew Sego)
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> From: "wern3 at juno.com" <wern3 at juno.com>
> Subject: [FC] Rampy issues
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> I have been driving Rampy on an irregular basis ever since May 1st when she came back from an extended stay in the "busted knuckle" garage. She now has an almost new gas tank, gas filter and, also, the battery - drain was fixed. I drove her about 100 miles on errands the longest being 25 miles each way to an old car show. Not so much as a hiccup anytime anywhere. I decided to enter her in another car show 70 miles away from home. On the way to the show she ran like a new truck for the first 65 miles, then she slowly started to stumble. The stumble became worse and worse until I was just able to limp into the car show. While parked at the show I inspected the points and a visual inspecytion of all elements of the electrical system. At the end of the day of the old car show, I drove her to the gas station and filled up on premium and headed east. The stumble became again worse as she got hot. While "at speed" (60 MPH) she would run fine for a few seconds then the motor woul
> d stumble was if the "off " switch was thrown. Then she would just as suddenly restart herself and run fine. I wound up towing her home for the last 20 miles. Once in my garage she starts and idles perfectly. When cold she ran perfectly. But, once the oil got hot, (my oil - temp guage read about 150) the stumble returned. I just managed to get her home by coasting and using 2nd gear to go up hills very slowly. I removed the coil, as I had not bothered checking it yet, and noted that the + connection wire seemed to be a bit loose. I replaced the coil and took her back out on the road. The stumble was no longer there. Could the stumble and power loss under load have been caused by a bad coil or loose coil connection? Do coils get hot as the car runs? It did not feel very hot when I removed it from the motor?Another road test is coming soon. Tim '61 Rampy 140
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> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:47:20 -0400
> From: Andy <rumbleseat66 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [FC] Rampy issues
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> With cheap reliable electronic ignitions these days I don't mess with points anymore but it sticks in my head my father always first swapping in a new condenser when his van would start acting up. Especially like the scenario you describe - problem only when hot.
>
> I would try to get it hot and make it act up again - but be ready to change condenser quickly and see if that helps.
>
> Then install a pertronix (or similar) and never look back. (Carrying stock points plate setup for spare).
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: "wern3 at juno.com" <wern3 at juno.com>
> To: corvanatics at corvair.org, jsstange at fuse.net
> Sent: Thu, Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [FC] Rampy issues
>
> I have been driving Rampy on an irregular basis ever since May 1st when she came back from an extended stay in the "busted knuckle" garage. She now has an almost new gas tank, gas filter and, also, the battery - drain was fixed. I drove her about 100 miles on errands the longest being 25 miles each way to an old car show. Not so much as a hiccup anytime anywhere. I decided to enter her in another car show 70 miles away from home. On the way to the show she ran like a new truck for the first 65 miles, then she slowly started to stumble. The stumble became worse and worse until I was just able to limp into the car show. While parked at the show I inspected the points and a visual inspecytion of all elements of the electrical system. At the end of the day of the old car show, I drove her to the gas station and filled up on premium and headed east. The stumble became again worse as she got hot. While "at speed" (60 MPH) she would run fine for a few seconds then the motor woul
> d stumble was if the "off " switch was thrown. Then she would just as suddenly restart herself and run fine. I wound up towing her home for the last 20 miles. Once in my garage she starts and idles perfectly. When cold she ran perfectly. But, once the oil got hot, (my oil - temp guage read about 150) the stumble returned. I just managed to get her home by coasting and using 2nd gear to go up hills very slowly. I removed the coil, as I had not bothered checking it yet, and noted that the + connection wire seemed to be a bit loose. I replaced the coil and took her back out on the road. The stumble was no longer there. Could the stumble and power loss under load have been caused by a bad coil or loose coil connection? Do coils get hot as the car runs? It did not feel very hot when I removed it from the motor?Another road test is coming soon. Tim '61 Rampy 140
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> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:53:21 -0500
> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [FC] Rampy issues
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> Could be the coil, the loose connection - or possibly the condenser (AKA
> capacitor).
>
> I'm suspecting the connection. Go for a long ride and bring a known good
> coil and condenser along with you.
>
> Yes, a tired coil can get hot enough to stop working properly.
>
> Later, JR
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <wern3 at juno.com>
> To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>; <jsstange at fuse.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:19 PM
> Subject: [FC] Rampy issues
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>
> On the way to the show she ran like a new truck for the first 65 miles,
> then she slowly started to stumble. The stumble became worse and worse until
> I was just able to limp into the car show. While parked at the show I
> inspected the points and a visual inspecytion of all elements of the
> electrical system.
>
> At the end of the day of the old car show, I drove her to the gas station
> and filled up on premium and headed east. The stumble became again worse as
> she got hot. While "at speed" (60 MPH) she would run fine for a few seconds
> then the motor would stumble was if the "off " switch was thrown. Then she
> would just as suddenly restart herself and run fine.
>
> I wound up towing her home for the last 20 miles. Once in my garage she
> starts and idles perfectly. When cold she ran perfectly.
>
> I removed the coil, as I had not bothered checking it yet, and noted that
> the + connection wire seemed to be a bit loose. I replaced the coil and took
> her back out on the road. The stumble was no longer there. Could the stumble
> and power loss under load have been caused by a bad coil or loose coil
> connection? Do coils get hot as the car runs? It did not feel very hot when
> I removed it from the motor?Another road test is coming soon. Tim '61 Rampy
> 140
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:00:19 -0500
> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [FC] Rampy issues
> To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
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> Oh, could also be the condenser in the distributor.
> Later, JR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [FC] Rampy issues
>
>
> > Could be the coil, the loose connection - or possibly the condenser (AKA
> > capacitor).
> >
> > I'm suspecting the connection. Go for a long ride and bring a known good
> > coil and condenser along with you.
> >
> > Yes, a tired coil can get hot enough to stop working properly.
> >
> > Later, JR
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <wern3 at juno.com>
> > To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>; <jsstange at fuse.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:19 PM
> > Subject: [FC] Rampy issues
> >
> >
> > On the way to the show she ran like a new truck for the first 65 miles,
> > then she slowly started to stumble. The stumble became worse and worse
> > until
> > I was just able to limp into the car show. While parked at the show I
> > inspected the points and a visual inspecytion of all elements of the
> > electrical system.
> >
> > At the end of the day of the old car show, I drove her to the gas station
> > and filled up on premium and headed east. The stumble became again worse
> > as
> > she got hot. While "at speed" (60 MPH) she would run fine for a few
> > seconds
> > then the motor would stumble was if the "off " switch was thrown. Then
> > she
> > would just as suddenly restart herself and run fine.
> >
> > I wound up towing her home for the last 20 miles. Once in my garage she
> > starts and idles perfectly. When cold she ran perfectly.
> >
> > I removed the coil, as I had not bothered checking it yet, and noted that
> > the + connection wire seemed to be a bit loose. I replaced the coil and
> > took
> > her back out on the road. The stumble was no longer there. Could the
> > stumble
> > and power loss under load have been caused by a bad coil or loose coil
> > connection? Do coils get hot as the car runs? It did not feel very hot
> > when
> > I removed it from the motor?Another road test is coming soon. Tim '61
> > Rampy
> > 140
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:04:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Andrew Sego <andrew_sego at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [FC] Genuine FC steel wheels.
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> Thanks for the picture Terry.?They are worth 1000 words.
>
> Here are links?to pictures of the wheels in question.
>
> http://s446.photobucket.com/albums/qq190/whiskey_tango/?action=view¤t=photo1466.jpg
>
>
> http://s446.photobucket.com/albums/qq190/whiskey_tango/?action=view¤t=photo1467.jpg
>
>
> http://s446.photobucket.com/albums/qq190/whiskey_tango/?action=view¤t=photo1468.jpg
>
>
> http://s446.photobucket.com/albums/qq190/whiskey_tango/?action=view¤t=photo1469.jpg
>
>
> One of the 5 wheels I have?is rusted and pitted pretty badly.? The last?3
> pictures are of the this wheel.? I'm going to try to find a nicer one for my
> spare.? This why I'm asking because I don't really care if they are real FC
> wheels or not, just so I know whether I'm looking for an Impala wheel or an FC
> wheel.? I also have a "non nub" FC wheel here, but I'd rather have a nubbed one
> so I can use it as a real spare to match the other ones.
>
> Andrew
>
> ?
>
>
>
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> From: "tkalp at cox.net" <tkalp at cox.net>
> To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 6:07:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [FC] Genuine FC steel wheels.
>
> Andrew,
>
> Attached is a photo of a '61 FC wheel.? It has the nubs for the full sized
> hubcap (see red circle) Not sure if the nubs were dropped in later FC
> production.? The easiest way for me to identify a FC wheel is that it has the
> wide ledge for the bead on the front and narrow bead ledge on the rear . . .?
> which means the tire should be mounted and dismounted from the back side of the
> rim.
>
> Terry Kalp
> Wichita, KS
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:30:43 -0400
> From: Ken Hand <vairmech at aol.com>
> Subject: [FC] Rampy issues
> To: corvanatics at corvair.org
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> OK, everything said so far is correct. With what you found, a loose connection, is more than likely the culprit. A loose connection will heat up and cause resistance and can get bad enough to actually stop all electrical flow.
>
> You do need to go for a longer drive, locally, like around the block 50 times and see what happens. If it happens again the condenser is the next suspect along with the coil. I have seen coils get heated up and stop working. Hmmm, I just thought of something else, I have seen the 12v resistor wires go bad causing similar problems.
>
> There was also mention of a brand name electronic ignition. In the past I have had problems with that particular brand lasting more than a couple of years. Now I was using the Pertronics II but it doesn't take having to buy back to many of those from customers to put a bad taste in your mouth.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken Hand
> 248-613-8586
> www.corvairmechanic.com
>
> http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x118/vairmech/Viet%20Nam%20Pictures%201971/
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>
>
> With cheap reliable electronic ignitions these days I don't mess with points
> anymore but it sticks in my head my father always first swapping in a new
> condenser when his van would start acting up. Especially like the scenario you
> describe - problem only when hot.
>
> I would try to get it hot and make it act up again - but be ready to change
> condenser quickly and see if that helps.
>
> Then install a pertronix (or similar) and never look back. (Carrying stock
> points plate setup for spare).
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: "wern3 at juno.com" <wern3 at juno.com>
> To: corvanatics at corvair.org, jsstange at fuse.net
> Sent: Thu, Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [FC] Rampy issues
>
> I have been driving Rampy on an irregular basis ever since May 1st when she came
> back from an extended stay in the "busted knuckle" garage. She now has an almost
> new gas tank, gas filter and, also, the battery - drain was fixed. I drove her
> about 100 miles on errands the longest being 25 miles each way to an old car
> show. Not so much as a hiccup anytime anywhere. I decided to enter her in
> another car show 70 miles away from home. On the way to the show she ran like a
> new truck for the first 65 miles, then she slowly started to stumble. The
> stumble became worse and worse until I was just able to limp into the car show.
> While parked at the show I inspected the points and a visual inspecytion of all
> elements of the electrical system. At the end of the day of the old car show,
> I drove her to the gas station and filled up on premium and headed east. The
> stumble became again worse as she got hot. While "at speed" (60 MPH) she would
> run fine for a few seconds then the motor woul
> d stumble was if the "off " switch was thrown. Then she would just as suddenly
> restart herself and run fine. I wound up towing her home for the last 20 miles.
> Once in my garage she starts and idles perfectly. When cold she ran perfectly.
> But, once the oil got hot, (my oil - temp guage read about 150) the stumble
> returned. I just managed to get her home by coasting and using 2nd gear to go up
> hills very slowly. I removed the coil, as I had not bothered checking it yet,
> and noted that the + connection wire seemed to be a bit loose. I replaced the
> coil and took her back out on the road. The stumble was no longer there. Could
> the stumble and power loss under load have been caused by a bad coil or loose
> coil connection? Do coils get hot as the car runs? It did not feel very hot when
> I removed it from the motor?Another road test is coming soon. Tim '61 Rampy 140
>
>
>
>
>
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