[SCG] SCG Evaluation
stan east
sgeast at interlog.com
Tue Jul 11 21:10:41 EDT 2006
Bill, Larry and Rich's comments are correct.
I also want to remind everyone that not all parts of any Corvair entered
will be evaluated in Buffalo. I have designed the form and its 47 pages
long! No one will be able to document all of any one Corvair in the time
allowed. Each team will be doing a section or sections of a small group of
Corvairs and there will have to be time limits so every Corvair in the group
is evaluated over the same time span. A portion of the SCG Annual Meeting
will be used to explain how to use the form. The form is meant to be used
from year to year at the next Convention(s). I expect from year to year as
Owners attend other Conventions that truly original or fully correct
Corvairs will become fully evaluated however there may be many non-original
Corvairs that have only sections evaluated. The form does allow for
acknowledging whether the evaluation is of unrestored or restored parts.
This is also not a beauty evaluation/contest either we don't care what the
parts look like only that they are the correct one(s).
Dave Ellis the SCG ASCE Chair for Buffalo 2006 and I will probably be asked
a lot of questions. And to reiterate this is not a judged or scored event.
The information is for developing knowledge about what's correct for the
year model and configuration for the SCG and the Owner. If there are awards
it's the intrinsic value the Owner and SCG place on this last statement
only.
We are going to have fun and enjoy looking at, talking about and documenting
each others Corvair in a non-competitive format.
Stan East
SCG Vice President
2006 Convention Secretary
2006 Convention Concours Chair
2006 NECC Liaison to Mosport
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Subject: Re: [SCG] SCG Evaluation
Hi all,
I agree completely. There's more than enough competition in CORSA already.
For the SCG, just determining what should be stock, and advising folks how
their cars fit that description, should be biting off plenty as it is. And
keep it more enjoyable for all.
Then a car owner could use that info to decide how far he wants to go, in
order to get into a particular concours class. Let him do the competing.
Dave
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:11:10 -0400 Richard W Thompson
<Richard.W.Thompson at usa.dupont.com> writes:
> Larry,
>
> I agree with you and Bill 100%. I always thought this was
> evaluation
> oreinted, not points driven to determine a "competitive" score.
> Basically,
> being a help and resource to those who want to get closer or right
> on to
> "stock" and where they could use the help to get there by way of
> known
> facts and competent and informed advice by other SCG members.
>
> Best Regards,
>
"Larry Claypool" <mr.vair at urbancom
>
>
> bill- thanks for putting the group direction back on course.
> i had thought the idea of the event was to observe and document
> factory
> correct appearence of original cars and details of them, so that we
> could
> have a record of how things *should* look where a stock restoration
> is
> desired; and secondarily to "judge" individual cars that have
> already been
>
> reworked or repaired so the owners might then know the areas on
> their
> specific car that would have be changed to be 'stock' again. as
> bill
> pointed
> out, i don't think the intent was to make a competition of whose
> car is
> most stock.
> best regards
> larry claypool
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at cox.net>
> To: "P.H. Raker" <n556p at yahoo.com>; <scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCG] SCG Evaluation
>
>
> > Paul,
> >
> > To you and all the others on the general SCG list, I wish to
> apologize
> for
> > any confusion Mark's e-mail to the list may have generated. The
> purpose
> > of
> > the Stock Corvair Evaluation is that of a learning tool, to
> generate
> > knowledge for each of us to use as we see fit. It is not meant in
> any
> way
> > to be a competitive event, so all this discussion of relative
> "scores" is
> > really inappropriate. The "scores" as such should have meaning
> only to
> > the
> > owner of the car, and only to the extent he wishes to use them.
> >
> > Please, let's end this discussion before it goes off into areas we
> never
> > intended the ASCE to go.
> >
> > Bill Hubbell,
> > SCG President
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