[SCG] RE: Interior Color Code on Trim Plate - 1964

[Bill Hubbell]

Dale (with cc to SCG-list)

 

Thanks for sending the photo of your Fisher Body Tag.  It is a 10D tag - I
had been missing that one from my on-line database and have added it.

 

You can view the entire database here:
http://rides.webshots.com/album/552937869fLgqrp

 

As you can see from viewing the photos, Fisher body used three different
styles of tags in 1964, and it currently looks like your 10D is the last
week of the 1st style, although the only tag we have for the 5th week of
October (we think) is an odd plate with an 0E designation (instead of 10E)
that is also missing the year designation in the "STYLE" section.  So we are
still looking for other tags from the 5th week of October 1964 that might
shed more light on this mystery.

 

The change in location of the interior paint code occurred along with the
change in the body plate.  Who knows why they changed it?

 

The Trim code number only referred to the upholstery color, whereas the
letter code refers to the interior paint color.  The two codes were probably
used because not all cars have the same color for both - for instance, you
could get white upholstery with a red paint interior:

Trim Code 727 = Ivory Imitation Leather

Paint Code Q  = Ivory for all but steering wheel hub and dash.

 

Even when the codes seem to refer to the same color, they really mean
different things - one is for the vinyl (or cloth, if 700), the other for
the paint.  Additionally, the trim codes specify the type of seat, which
varied according to the model of the car (500/700/900), although the
interior paint codes remained the same:

Hence, for an Aqua Interior:

 


Trim Level

Trim Code

Trim Description

Paint Code


500

720

Metallic Med. Aqua Imitation Leather - Bench Seat

A


700

751

Med. Aqua Scotia Cloth/Metallic Med. Imitation Leather - Bench Seat

A


900

755

Metallic Med. Aqua Imitation Leather - Bucket Seat

A

 

Please send me the photos of the air cleaners, engine number, etc.

 

Thanks!

 

Bill

 

 

 

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From: Dale Hewitt [mailto:dhewitt at triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:39 PM
To: whubbell at umich.edu
Subject: Re: Interior Color Code on Trim Plate

 

Bill,

I'm sending a photo of the body plate from the '64 Monza convertible.  I
tried earlier to send you photos of the engine, VIN plate, and the engine
number but it bounced - apparently too big for your server.  

 

Please let me know if you want the photo of the air cleaners, engine number,
etc. and I'll send them individually.

 

After looking at a number of other 1964 model plates, my initial question
should be ammended and expanded.  Why have both a letter code for the
interior following the paint code in addition to the trim code number on the
left side and why do you suppose that Willow Run changed the location of the
letter code from following the paint code, separated by a hypen (like the
Almond Fawn convertible) to the later location below the paint code?

 

Thanks.

Dale

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bill Hubbell <mailto:whubbell at umich.edu>  

To: 'Dale Hewitt' <mailto:dhewitt at triad.rr.com>  

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:33 AM

Subject: RE: Interior Color Code on Trim Plate

 

Dale,

 

Just to make sure I am answering your question correctly, could you please
take a digital photo of your fisher body plate and send it to me?

 

712 refers to the color and trim scheme of the interior vinyl, not to the
paint.

 

Bill

 


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From: Dale Hewitt [mailto:dhewitt at triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:46 PM
To: Bill Hubbell
Subject: Interior Color Code on Trim Plate

 

Bill,

Hope you had a good trip home from Detroit.  

 

Thanks again for the Stock Corvair Group newsletter link and for your kind
response to my question about paint code 920 - E.  However, knowing the
answer raises more questions.

 

With the 712 - 2 trim code on the same data plate, why would GM add the
interior extension to the paint code?  Is there something unique about the
black interior with almond fawn paint?  Is it because it's a convertible?
Was this practice limited to 1964?

 

Another thing I noticed is the number " 20 - E" written in crayon or chalk
on the rectangular bracket with three hangars that supports the rear seat
back.  It's written immediately toward the center of the outboard passenger
side hangar.  Could this be an abbreviated paint code "920 - E"?  

 

Other than a yellow exterior repaint, I believe this car is original.

 

Dale 

 

 

Dale Hewitt
1007 Rollingwood Drive
Greensboro, NC  27410

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