[SCG] [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair Entries and Stock PreservationAward history in CORSA Concours 1997-2009
Jack Pinard
corvairjack at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 16 15:23:23 EDT 2009
Mr. Luckow -
Thank you for your service and your personal comments. I would be interested in any plan you can submit that has as its goal a major increase in concours participation. I hope that as concours chair you are not satisfied with the numbers from recent conventions. (45,38,57,60)
If your statement was a decision made by the concours committee as a whole, please provide minutes of the meeting.
The board of directors has a responsibility to all CORSA members.
When many qualified opinions are sent to board by members concerning any event or committee the board has a responsibility to respectfully study and evaluate the topic.
The preferred procedure would be for board first to direct the appropriate committee to study all suggestions from members, evaluate and make recommendations for changes if any in a detailed report listing committee members participating and minutes of all meetings.
The board would then have a body of information for orderly study, discussion and decision by voting. As you know, discussions are held after motions are made, not before.
If the committee does not comply with board direction, there are several other procedures available to board.
However for the board to fail to discuss comments from members is a serious breach of democratic rule as specific in CORSA governing documents and would be a public relations disaster at a time when the board is attempting to restore confidence by improving participation of all CORSA activities - including concours.
The president does not have sole responsibility or authority to decide whether member comments are given consideration by board.
And the president does not have authority to restrict board to place a topic on the agenda of meetings.
If president refuses to honor a directors request to place a topic on agenda, the director may introduce as "New Business" or "Old Business".
President Mahler's email comment that "case is closed" does not comply with his duties as specified in governing documents and
is disrespectful to the other eleven members of the board of directors.
I believe that directors can "disagree without being disagreeable".
I hope that you share this philosophy.
Sincerely,
Jack Pinard
Jack Pinard
CORSA Western Division Director
116 E Garden Green, Port Hueneme CA 93041-1926
Cell 805 340-6533
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From: dal <daluckow at aol.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:51:35 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair Entries and Stock PreservationAward history in CORSA Concours 1997-2009
Please do not be concerned about Concours
classification for any upcoming agenda. Tim is in tune with my
agenda. He is a highly qualified judge (Unit 4) The worst job anyone
should have to do. For now the Concours classification is as Tim indicated
below. Carry on with other Corsa matters. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Duanne Luckow
Corsa Concours Chairman
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On 9/15/2009 at 6:23 PM tim mahler wrote:
Correct the response has been quite
> NEGATIVE.
>
>It is not on the agenda nor will it be
> added. The issue has already been assigned to the Concours
> Chairperson. The recent changes to the Concours rules ALREADY included
> major changes to classifications. When the Concours chair presents
> anything new, It will be added to the agenda.
>
>Stock class. Street Stock. Improved
> (modified, non stock, whatever) Hybrid (engineering -- Corvair
> bodied or Corvair powered but not both)
>
>For now, case closed.
>
>tim mahler
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jack
>> Pinard
>>To: whubbell at umich.edu ; Larry
>> Claypool ; Duanne Luckow ; CORSA/CPF
>> BoD ; Stock Corvair Group
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:14
>> PM
>>Subject: Re: [Corsabod] Factory Stock
>> Corvair Entries and Stock PreservationAward history in CORSA Concours
>> 1997-2009
>>
>>
>>Bill
>> -
>>
>>I repeat that I have requested president Mahler to include concours
>> classification as topic for discussion at scheduled board meeting.
>>
>>I
>> have not received positive response.
>>
>>This topic will be introduced at
>> next board meeting and I will move that a special committee chaired by a
>> director be appointed to study all aspects of concours and report back
>> within 90 days to board.
>>
>>I expect that the committee will consider
>> your views as well as all members of the concours committee, whomever they
>> are, and other members in making recommendations to the
>> board.
>>
>>Although I am not well versed in details of classifications,
>> my goal is to increase and enhance participation in councours for the
>> benefit of CORSA as a whole. Concours is a primary purpose of
>> conventions, and an opportunity for media
>> promotion.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jack Pinard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jack Pinard
>>CORSA Western Division
>> Director
>>
>>116 E Garden Green, Port Hueneme CA 93041-1926
>>
>>Cell 805
>> 340-6533
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
From: Bill Hubbell
>> <whubbell at cox.net>
>>To: Larry Claypool
>> <vairshop at sbcglobal.net>; Duanne Luckow <daluckow at aol.com>;
>> CORSA/CPF BoD <corsabod at corvair.org>; Stock Corvair Group
>> <scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009
>> 9:04:56 PM
>>Subject: >> [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair Entries and Stock Preservation Award
>> history in CORSA Concours 1997-2009
>>
>> >>
>>To:
>>Larry Claypool, CORSA Concours
>> Classification Chairman
>>Duanne Luckow, CORSA Concours
>> Chair
>>CORSA Board of
>> Directors
>>Stock Corvair
>> Group
>>
>>
>>Gentleman,
>>
>>Attached is a summary of all
>> cars entered into the two CORSA Concours Factory Stock classes since the
>> development of the Stock Preservation Award in 1997. Although we have
>> had some great success with recent Factory Stock Restored entries also
>> winning the Mitchell Award, the fact remains that participation in the
>> Factory Stock Classes remains very low. Please review this information
>> with an eye towards answering the question of what, if anything, we can do
>> to encourage and improve Factory Stock participation at the Concours
>> level.
>>
>>Thank you
>>
>>Bill Hubbell
>>President, Stock Corvair
>> Group
>>
>>
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