<VV> What about your PG Turbo (Morphed: Judson on a Sedan)
Eric S. Eberhard
flash@vicspdi.com
Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:55:22 -0700
Mine is really ugly --> I bought it for 300 bucks. It was one owner with
33,000 miles. Unfortunately when he died the relative let it sit in a
vacant lot for six years. Hence the paint is shot and the driver's seat is
cracking (looked good when I got it but it is brittle so as I drive it gets
worse). I have done little to the car as the goal was a fun daily
driver. I did shocks, tires, some bushings, gas tank, upgraded ignition,
and the Judson. I also (for grins and giggles) put on a clear plastic
engine cover from the 60's (it is really neat). It is 100% "period
original" with the exception of the electronic ignition stuff (Pertronix
and MSD and wires and coil). I don't want to do any cosmetics because if I
do I won't want to drive it. I have a very nice Spyder I drive about once
a week, but I always live in fear of dings and damage. With the sedan, I
don't care, I don't even wash it :-)
The Judson works wonderfully with this combination. It in no way has the
"snap" and acceleration of the Spyder. However, the increase in perceived
torque is tremendous. It will now go up hills at speed limit (75 here)
when it used to maybe manage 55. Long accelerations (like on ramps) are
much quicker. I think most of the reason it is not as snappy as the Spyder
is because of the PG. I also think that belt driven sacrifices maximum
horsepower (it robs some) in exchange for always on power at any rpm (it is
a variable vane supercharger which is unusual an cool).
I suspect I get away with the Judson on a 102 because of the upgraded
ignition. I am running richer than I would without and it accepts higher
timing. I have no knocking or problems of any kind except it idles rich (I
am still looking for one size smaller idle jets). This is likely due to my
altitude.
One day, when I am done playing and I find another driver (I am looking for
a 62 Coupe with A/C and PG) I will likely restore this one the easy way
(take it to California Corvairs).
Picture of my cars are linked to below. I have been too lazy to put
pictures since I added the clear lid and Judson, but they are coming ...
Have fun with your car, send a picture!
At 06:31 AM 7/20/2004, JWCorvair@aol.com wrote:
>Hi Eric,
>
>I have thought about putting a Judson on my sedan. It would be a "classic"
>add-on perido piece. In the 60s, Bill Corey advocated installing the
>Judson on 80 and 84 hp engines, not the 102 hp engines. I would think a
>belt driven supercharger would work much better than an exhaust driven
>supercharger because there is no lag and the exhaust-compression response
>does not interfer with the shift of a PG.
>
>Tell me a little about your sedan. Not too many people refurbish sedans.
>I'm currently in the middle of installing a new interior in mine. The car
>is a Mitusbishi polar-ice blue, a little more blue than the original
>silver, white top, and will have a tan interior. It might sound a little
>strange, but I saw the combination on a Mercedes and it looked pretty
>good. The engine is a 140 hp from a manual gear box car. The car has a PG
>and runs really good with manual cam 140 engine. I have the original 84 hp
>engine on a bench. Suspension is HD with the springs cut one coil. I have
>a Flaming River steering box I will install after I have the interior in.
>I'm planning on revising the suspension based on notes from VV and the
>Tech Guide.
>
>Take care - Joe White
>
>In a message dated 7/19/2004 3:52:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Eric S.
>Eberhard" <flash@vicspdi.com> writes:
>
> >I put a Judson on my 62 Sedan with PG --> awesome, easy to do, looks cool,
> >runs well, small price (about 1,000) compared to swapping the engine. You
> >might consider it. I'll have pictures on my web page by and by.
> >
> >At 06:04 AM 7/16/2004, you wrote:
> >>Hi Lloyd,
> >>
> >>I followed this thread with some interest because it seemed that you have
> >>a 150 hp turbo and PG combination. Do I understand that correctly? If so,
> >>can you provide some additional information about the setup? I know of
> >>other turbo PG combinations, but, because the setup is not stock or
> >>common, I am always interested in finding out how such combinations are
> built.
> >>
> >>Regards - Joe White
> >>62 Sedan
> >>Corsa, RMC member
> >>Boulder, CO
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Eric S. Eberhard
(928) 567-3727 Voice
(928) 567-6122 Fax
(800) 569-1122 Denver Office (I am never there, you can leave a
message)
(720) 339-4765 Cell
http://www.vicspdi.com
Completely updated web site of personal pictures with many new
pictures! Includes horses, dogs, Corvairs, and more.
http://www.vicspdi.com/ourpics/index.html