<VV> mobil 1 user

[Alan and Clare Wesson]

I agree that it's anecdotal evidence, but a) I know of a lot of Golfs in 
similar condition and with similar miles, and b) I have seen the lack of 
wear with my own eyes, and I wouldn't have believed it possible. Likewise 
the lack of parts that have had to be replaced.

And as I said, while it maybe doesn't prove that Golfs are wonderful or that 
Synta is wonderful, it certainly proves that Synta isn't *not* wonderful!

Cheers

Alan


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Morris" <BigD at davemorris.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> mobil 1 user


> It doesn't tell you anything.  It's called "Anecdotal evidence" in the 
> world of science, and it is a footnote.  It's nice to hear, but it's not 
> scientifically valid.  The only real evidence is a wear vs time curve for 
> synthetic and dino.  Everything else is emotional hyperbole.
>
> Dave Morris
>
>
> At 03:46 PM 7/5/2005, you wrote:
>>I use Volkswagen's own brand semi-synthetic 'Quantum Synta' in my 84 Golf 
>>GTi, and I and the previous owner have been using this since 1989, when he 
>>bought it with 50000 miles on the clock. Quantum Synta costs $10 a gallon, 
>>and we have both changed the oil every 5000 miles (at $10 a gallon this is 
>>no hardship - Mobil 1 here costs $45 a gallon!).
>>
>>It has now done 230000 miles, and it has no bore or bearing (or any other) 
>>wear, and the only engine work it has ever had was valve stem oil seals at 
>>210000 miles (that's how I know there's no bore wear - it's a head-off 
>>job).
>>
>>Does this tell me that VW's semi-synthetic is great oil, or that more 
>>expensive synthetic oils are a waste of money, or that fully synthetic 
>>isn't worth bothering with over semi-syn, or that it was a good idea to 
>>buy a car whose interior and exterior fitments, and its wheel bearing and 
>>driveshafts, etc (3 out of 4 bearings and all the CVJs are still original, 
>>despite our stringent inspection regs) were of the same quality as its 
>>mechanical ones (so that everything else can last as long as the engine - 
>>which is is doing) - or just that VWs are incredibly well-engineered?
>>
>>I kind of figured that a company with a reputation for durability like VW 
>>has would not put oil in its engines from new and at services unless it 
>>was exceptionally high quality - and I seem to have been right. So far, 
>>anyway - I am shooting for at least the 1/4 million mile mark, and I would 
>>like to get to half a million!
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Roraff" <corvair at bevcomm.net>
>>To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:31 PM
>>Subject: <VV> mobil 1 user
>>
>>
>>On more letter on synthetic oil.
>>My first new car was an 85 Ford Tempo, used Mobil One from first oil 
>>change. Nine years latter was time to retire it.  Engine was still good 
>>but everything else was failing.
>>Changed oil twice a year, (10,000 miles).  Only needed to add oil once in 
>>between oil changes from when it was new to when it had 180,000 miles.  It 
>>had lots of one mile trips in Minnesota  winters.  My Neon was similar but 
>>over 215,000 miles and the car was in much better shape.  Now would cheap 
>>Wal Mart oil have given me the same results, no way to know with out a 
>>scientific double blind test.  So which oil to I use on my new car?  I 
>>just don't know. My conclusions are people change oil way to often and
>>there is now way to tell quality of motor oil until it's too late.
>>
>>Dan
>>65 Monza Convertible
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