<VV> Re: Manuals and what I was expecting

BBRT chsadek at adelphia.net
Tue Jun 28 20:48:48 EDT 2005


Shoot!  You don't ask for much!  I want the manuals to do the work, so I can 
sit back and watch!

Chuck S
BBRT
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From: "Frog Princezz" <media_diva at sbcglobal.net>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:40 PM
Subject: <VV> Re: Manuals and what I was expecting


> Ok Ok you're funny!  Surely you didn't just ask what am I expecting from a 
> manual?  You must not have read any of my other post ever have you!
> I'M EXPECTING THE WORLD IN ONE NEAT PACKAGE!!!  I thought you knew... I 
> thought everybody knew that by now.  I want it to be easy and happen over 
> night, I want the manuals to open itself up the the correct page without 
> me ever touching the book.  Heck I want the manual to hand me the proper 
> tool and know what parts need to be fixed even before I do and order the 
> darn things so that they are available when I figure out I need it. 
> That's what I was expecting!
>
>
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:54:29 -0400
> From: Padgett
>
> Subject: Manuals
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>> > If the manual companies are gonna sale these, IMHO, senseless misuse of 
>> > a
>>perfectly good tree could they at least give me some useful information?!?
>
> Am not sure what you are expecting. The factory service manual (FSM) is
> essential to maintaining a car (for the Buick Reatta, it is the *only*
> source). Be glad that the Corvair has had enough interest to generate 
> quite
> a number of manuals.
>
> I measure the factory service manuals in my library by feet yet when we 
> had
> a Westphalia, "How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive" was essential since it
> explained things in layman's terms and without requiring large numbers of
> specialized tools (in GM-ese, J-tools mostly from Kent-Moore).
>
> Similarly, once I find the right Corvair, my copy of the "Chilton's 
> Corvair
> Repair and Tune Up Guide" will be along but so will the wiring diagram
> since the Chilton's has none (actually I prefer either Haynes or Clymer's
> but have the Chilton's). Once I have the car will probably get the CD to
> put on my notebook (seems a bit pricey though, are they available anywhere
> at a discount ?).
>
> Now you do not need to be an engineer or a mechanic with a Snap-On habit 
> to
> understand a FSM though it does help to understand that they are all laid
> out the same way: in the 1960s "Engine, Mechanical" was chapter 6 and it
> still is though there has been some shuffling otherwise.
>
> In recent years GM has allowed some car clubs to post the service manuals
> online (usually in PDF format) and it make it mush easier to answer a
> question if you can just refer to a figure or paragraph in the answer.
>
> You must keep in mind that not all factory service manuals are equal
> (preliminary are for long leads and usually just have changes from the
> previous year and even the final was usually produced before the first car
> was sold. There are also supplements where there were not many and also
> require a previous year.
>
> Then there are TSBs, assembly manuals, wiring manuals, P&As, all which 
> have
> different parts of the puzzle. Finally there are separate Fisher Body,
> Delco-Remy, Delco-Moraine, Delco-Radio, Rochester Carb., etc, etc. 
> catalogs
> and service manuals which have still more details. It is never-ending.
>
> The nice thing is that most are available for the Corvair and the prices
> (other than the CD) seem reasonable (have seen certain service manuals go
> for over $100 and others are unobtainable for any price (MCC Smart Car) .
>
> So if looking for a single slim volume that will tell all, it doesn't
> exist. If someone knows where I can buy a copy of Finch's "How to Keep 
> Your
> Corvair Alive ", I would appreciate a lead.
>
> Padgett
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