Fw: <VV> police harassment - again -long
chaz at properproper.com
Sat Oct 1 20:05:21 EDT 2005
> I've got over 100,000 miles on my car (non-Corvair, 'nuff said), and no
> inspection is required so far.
> A "safety inspection" is only required if your car is "totaled" and
> re-registered as "salvage."
> I'm used to NY's annual inspections for people who don't know better, or
> really care what damage they cause.
> I had a friend whose brakes were so bad they she rear-ended a Highway
> Patrol car and wanted me to help her break into the police impound yard to
> do her brakes before they found out ! She's a doctor (CRT) now, so watch
> out !
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris C" <ricorvair at cox.net>
> To: "Spence Shepard" <sshepard3 at earthlink.net>; <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> police harassment - again -long
>>I tend to agree. RI went to a 2 year inspection, and I think that was
>>stupid (upped the fee to 47 because of emissions).
>> Now a car with marginal brakes and tires has two years to get really bad.
>> Had a car pass inspection on the first and get a new front axel by the
>> 30'th. But it passed then.
>> Inpections are not for those of us who care. Its to protect us against
>> those who don't care or know enough.
>> Still bring my cars to the shop classic or otherwise and pay to get them
>> checked out by somebody else.
>> At 09:47 PM 9/30/2005, you wrote:
>>>We have a similar situation here in North Carolina. Cars 35 years old and
>>>older are not required to have a safety inspection (regardless of plate).
>>>This is a new requirement this year. I'm sure a lot of police officers
>>>don't know about it, it wasn't very well publicised.
>>>I probably have a different perspective on this situation that a lot of
>>>people. I am a State Inspector and I encourage people to have their
>>>Corvairs inspected even though it isn't required. It certainly isn't
>>>because of the $8 "profit" I make for 20 minutes of work that often turns
>>>into an hour when I have a problem with the inspection machine or the car
>>>being inspected. It's because I think the service I provide is a bargain
>>>as is the certification that the car is "safe". I have personally
>>>experienced a situation where an insurance company accused me of having
>>>an unsafe Corvair when their insured ran into me. The fact that my car
>>>had recently been inspected was a factor in the settlement. In North
>>>Carolina an insurance company gets out of paying anything if they can
>>>prove that you in any way (like 1%) contribute to the accident.
>>>I know that most people don't like the State telling them they have to do
>>>anything, especially when it come to our cars, but I think it is foolish
>>>not to take advantage of a real bargain.
>>>Spence Shepard----- Original Message ----- From: <mhicks130 at cox.net>
>>>To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:36 PM
>>>Subject: <VV> police harassment - again -long
>>>>A while back I posted about being pulled over by a York County VA
>>>>sheriff because I didn't have the state-mandated safety inspection
>>>>sticker in my window. He told me that antique cars were not exempt.
>>>>Afterwards I talked to a state police officer (they oversee the safety
>>>>inspection laws) and he said antique registered cars ARE exempt and
>>>>suggested that I keep a copy of the laws in my glovebox for the next
>>>>time I got pulled over. Well I got pulled over again today - by the
>>>>SAME sheriff's deputy.
>>>>This time he was directing traffic in front of a school. He left his
>>>>post, drove the wrong way in the opposing lane to chase me down - for
>>>>not having a sticker (which I am exempt by law from having). I was
>>>>ready for him this time - I had my printouts. He saw them when he
>>>>walked up to the car and asked if was going to read them to him. I
>>>>replied "if I have to". I told him that I had talked to the state police
>>>>and they told me I was exempt. He said they lied to me!!! I barked
>>>>back that no they did not. I then read the laws to him as requested. He
>>>>admitted that I was right (??). He then threatened to pull my tags and
>>>>force me to tow my car home because it was unsafe in his oppoinion
>>>>because I couldn't "prove" the brakes were good. I offered to jack the
>>>>car up and show him but he wanted the inspection pink slip. I told him
>>>>the inspection slip doesn't prove anything and again offered to show him
>>>>my brakes. I was actually YELLING at this guy by this time. I know
>>>>t a good idea but I couldn't help it. Telling my the state police were
>>>>liars and then threatening to impound my plates with no probable cause
>>>>was more than I could take. I accused him of harassment and demanded
>>>>another officer be brought to the scene. I felt things were getting
>>>>ugly fast and I wanted a "real" cop to be there. Well things calmed
>>>>down and me and the deputy had a reasonable little talk after that. He
>>>>said he didn't remember talking to me before and was just trying to
>>>>inform me of the laws pertaining to antique vehicles. But of course he
>>>>was telling me the wrong laws until I read him the real law. He knew
>>>>the real law too, he just doesn't like people not having inspections and
>>>>using their cars. They only gray area here is the law restricts the kind
>>>>of driving you can do - you aren't supposed to use antique cars for
>>>>daily transportation. It does allow you to use it for club activities,
>>>>shows, repairs and "pleasure drives". Unfortunately it doesn't define
>>>> "pleasure drives" anywhere. The state police officer said because of
>>>> that I could drive it pretty much how I wanted. The sheriff's deputy
>>>> thought it meant I can't even stop for a bite to eat if I'm on a
>>>> pleasure drive.
>>>>I ended up not getting a ticket, which I almost wish I had got so we
>>>>could settle this thing. I don't know what to do. At the end of it all
>>>>he was shaking my hand, tellng me I was a good guy, congradulating me on
>>>>informing myself on the laws and offering to take me out for coffee the
>>>>next time we met. I'm quite the diplomat I guess. The allows me to
>>>>drive my car the way I have been driving but this guy doesn't like that.
>>>>I'm tempted to get a sticker just to get this guy off my back but I'm
>>>>still young enough to want to fight for principle!!! Dammit.
>>>>BTW, he did talk to me about the Bible and God and the commandments and
>>>>stuff. It turns out we're not human beings having a spiritual
>>>>experience, we're spiritual beings having a human experience. He's very
>>>>knowledgible on holy things this guy. I got a less of it this time than
>>>>the last time he pulled me over. It still aint right though.
>>>>Sorry for the long post but you guys are the only ones who would
>>>>understand my dilema.
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