<VV> Response to the issue from "Rocker arms et al. (apologies forbeing long-winded)"

BBRT chsadek at adelphia.net
Fri Oct 14 15:27:10 EDT 2005

I agree.  Patience and remembering, not everyone means what the words "sound 
like" in an email....

Chuck S
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Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:58 PM
Subject: <VV> Response to the issue from "Rocker arms et al. (apologies 
forbeing long-winded)"

> So far, I've pretty much stayed out of the infighting here. I've just 
> asked questions
> and recieved the usual gambit of answers. Most very informative, but some
> derogatory in nature. In any group of diversified individuals (like VV) I 
> expect this
> and just let those roll off my back. Of course, sometimes I received 
> workable
> answers and sometimes I did not. But, they all helped me think of how I 
> could solve the problem.
> But anyway, this is my 2 cents on what the purpose of this forum is. Most 
> of us that can, do join the local clubs, buy the books and attend the 
> events. But, there
> are those who are physically further removed from the general Corvair 
> population. Access is much more limited.
> With that said, if VV is suppose to work toward the desired goal of 
> increasing the membership and interest in our facinating little cars, it 
> needs to be just what it is, a "discussion group".  Personal attacks just 
> drag down my enjoyment of perusing what people are talking about. I am 
> lucky enough to be in a metro area where individuals in the club have been 
> more than happy to "mentor" me. Which is the main point I would like to 
> make.
> The best way for us to increase our membership and bring in new 
> membership, which includes the younger crowd is to mentor. I intend to do 
> my share as my skills improve. Mentoring does not mean "do it for them" it 
> means to give as much direction as needed to help the individual 
> eventually "fly on their own".
> The reason mentoring is so imperative to the continuance of our club is 
> not because people are lazy, but because they (I) need the ability to 
> "leverage our time" in a world that does move faster with ever increasing 
> demands on our time. Granted, I could research an answer to a particular 
> problem, eventually find the answer, and solve it. But, if someone is 
> willing to mentor, or instructively answer my question, I will learn the 
> same amount in a much shorter time frame and be out showing off my car and 
> new found knowledge to interested friends and acquaintances (and 
> maybe/hopefully future members). And the chances of acheiveing a 
> frustration level which causes the "cut and run" disease are greatly 
> diminished. Not only do I now have new knowledge at my fingertips, but 
> when I do run across reading material related to the original problem, I 
> now have first hand experience to evaluate the "technical" answer and 
> apply it productively to any future utilization of my new found skill.
>  Whether it is using it myself or in the process of mentoring someone 
> else.
> Yes, I will still read and study material as time allows me to. And, it 
> will be fun because it will be my choice to stop and do this. It won't be 
> because I've got a crisis on my hands and get burned out because I'm busy 
> reading all of the wrong stuff do to my infancy in learning the Corvair 
> ways and lingo. And finally finding the answer, use it, find it is the 
> wrong application, and start the process over
> again. Granted, our beloved little car is unique in its design and 
> definitly has its own set of problems and solutions, but it isn't rocket 
> science and we eventually will understand. I don't think anyone here wants 
> this to be an exclusive club where everything has a price. If I wanted 
> this I would buy an overpriced "wow value" car and join their club. 
> Instead I'd rather still get the "wow value" but gain a new freind who 
> likes me for who I am and not just pump me to know whether my mechanic is 
> better than theirs.
> So PLEASE show us newbies some patience when answering questions. Thus 
> teaching us to do the same when we help others in the future. And 
> understand that not everyone has access to the same support groups some of 
> us enjoy.
> **If it helps just imagine that the one needing help is that cute little 
> thing on the side of the road who has broken down. The one you will stop 
> for, and help, even though you drive right past all the others who aren't 
> as gorgeous and attractive. You do realize I'm talking about the car, 
> right?
> Thanks for indulging me while I stated my piece,
> R.B.
> 65 110 Monza
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