[Fwd: Fwd: Re: <VV> Car Display]

Bill Elliott corvair at fnader.com
Tue Aug 8 07:55:43 EDT 2006


 From Chuck since VV won't seem to let him play directly...
Bill

> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:24:46 -0400
> To: "Dave Keillor" <dkeillor at tconcepts.com>
> From: "Louis C. Armer,Jr." <carmerjr at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Car Display
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>
> And where do you intend to find judges and finances to separate this 
> event and extend the convention
> for a day to prevent conflicts with an existing moving event or tech 
> sessions etc. ?
>       Concours participants at our conventions do not roll their cars 
> out of air conditioned covered trailers with drivers, mechanics and
> whatever else that PBers use. Furthermore, most of us compete in 
> driving events at the convention and before in NECC speed events. If 
> you want to have your car judged, you can enter it in Concours and 
> walk away from it and let it be judged as is. Concours has a primary 
> division which does not have Senior cars and allows you to compete 
> against a set of standards not popularity and gives you three 
> different levels of excellence that your Corvair may obtain. Bronze, 
> Silver and Gold are available at every convention.                   
> We had an outstanding Car Display at Buffalo and I feel that most if 
> not all of the winners were very deserving and not the result of 
> "buddy voting". Many of the Display cars would have pointed out in 
> Concours at the Silver or Gold level. The public needs to be aware of 
> both Concours and Display and most of the time you will find that the 
> Display cars receive much more publicity than
> the Judged cars. The media and the public aren't aware enough to know 
> the difference.   
>
> Chuck Armer
> Darth Vair 96.77 and ran at Mosport
> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> At 01:43 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
>
>> If there were only one change I could make to the Corsa convention, it
>> would be to turn the car display into a full-fledged car show with
>> multiple classes that is held separate from the concours (e.g.,
>> Saturday).  Make it a judged show (to avoid the buddy-voting bias), but
>> to lower standards than the concours.  Get media coverage for the show
>> in the local media to increase the visibility of the Corvair.
>
>
>> A real car show would add a big reason for me to attend the national.
>> Between my wife and I, we have several very nice (or soon to be very
>> nice) Corvairs, but have no interest in participating in the concours,
>> mostly because of the extraordinary amount of work needed to get a car
>> to a senior level and then keeping it there.  We drive our cars and
>> don't want to spend hours under the car at the convention getting it
>> ready for concours.  I suppose we could enter as-is, but where is the
>> fun of competing if there is no chance of winning (or at least doing
>> well)?  My impression of the concours is that some of the participants
>> seem to think it's Pebble Beach - I don't want Pebble Beach, just a fun
>> car show.
>> Dave Keillor
>> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
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