<VV> Bordering Comical...Humor

Charles Lee at Prop Per chaz at ProperProPer.com
Mon Aug 14 22:40:44 EDT 2006


OK, maybe a little, but the Toronado / Eldorado target market probably buys 
SUVs today, right ?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garth Stapon" <corvair2 at earthlink.net>
To: "Charles Lee at Prop Per" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Bordering Comical...Humor


> The fact that the 425 cubic inch Tornado motor gave 10 mpg had nothing to 
> do with its lack of success...
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles Lee at Prop Per <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
>>Sent: Aug 13, 2006 5:53 PM
>>To: Mike Ioanes <mioanes at woh.rr.com>
>>Cc: Virtual Vairs <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
>>Subject: Re: <VV> Bordering Comical...
>>
>>If the engine "belongs" in the front, why are (nearly) all true 
>>performance
>>cars rear-engined (or at least mid-engined) ?
>>
>>Had anyone noticed that the first American campaign for front-engined cars
>>were "luxury cars" (Toronado, Eldorado) were not met well by the 
>>car-buying
>>public, and that people opted for "normal" cars ?
>>
>>Then I guess "they" then decided not to give us a choice, because the next
>>time they tried to foist FWD on us, they gave us little choice, and all 
>>car
>>were, all of a sudden, front-wheel-drive.  This limited the car buyers'
>>choice, and eventually made FWD common, and therefore acceptable.
>>
>>It's no different now, buyers (in 1960's) were spending a couple of grand 
>>on
>>a new car, and were told that there just "might" be something wrong with 
>>the
>>Corvair. Which car would you buy, assuming you knew as little as an 
>>average
>>car buyer knows about cars ?
>>
>>I think they realized that GM's real fault in 1960 was building a car that
>>was different, and figured that "this time" the new configuration (FWD)
>>would not be different, because everyone is going to making the same thing
>>!!!
>>
>>And now all you can find are front wheel drive cars, which for the most
>>part, understeer, which is far easier to predict than oversteer for the
>>(less than) average driver, right ?
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Mike Ioanes" <mioanes at woh.rr.com>
>>To: "Secular" <rusecular at yahoo.com>
>>Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: <VV> Bordering Comical...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Subject: <VV> Bordering Comical...
>>>>snip<
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Ford unleashed TV ads that featured an arrow with a moveable head. 
>>> The
>>> head was supposed to be the engine. When the head was at the front of 
>>> the
>>> arrow, it shot straight and true. When the head was moved to the back of
>>> the arrow, it was erratic. This brilliant piece of advertising nonsense
>>> implied that a front engine car was the right way, and the Ford way. A
>>> rear engine car was the wrong way, and the Corvair way.
>>>
>>> Not saying this isn't true, but what I remember form the early 60's is
>>> similar ads by Simca (a French  product marketed by Chrysler) saying the
>>> same thing.  Amazingly, or humorously, they later introduced a
>>> rear-engined car.  A neighbor had one of their older, front-engine, rear
>>> drive cars and a friend's older sister had one of the rear-engine ones.
>>> www.centuryinter.net/Simca/
>>>
>>> Mike Ioanes
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