<VV> drive wheels and getting out of line

Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per chaz at ProperProPer.com
Tue Aug 15 13:41:07 EDT 2006


Yeah, I guess it's hard to get out of shape at 20 MPH, driving like the 
Sheriff of Mayberry !

Most people get in trouble when speed creeps up on them, at highway speeds, 
and they do not understand that physics has followed them, and is lurking 
behind the next curve or swerve.

That's where understeer comes in handy, except for the part that causes them 
to be unable to steer enough to miss the car they are trying to avoid.

Then, the FWD helps them out by crunching their more massive front end into 
the nice "soft" rear end of another car with, like a big metal air bag.  Of 
course, the accident is charged to them, but they have a great story to 
tell.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Elliott" <corvair at fnader.com>
To: "Charles Lee at Prop Per" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> drive wheels


> Absolutely, but only under hard acceleration (like in my Allante), not 
> under easing away from a stop sign.
>
> Bill
>
> Charles Lee at Prop Per wrote:
>
>> Weight transfer (in the extreme) is the problem when losing steering on 
>> acceleration ?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Elliott" <corvair at fnader.com>
>> To: "airvair" <airvair at richnet.net>
>> Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>; "Dave Keillor" <dkeillor at tconcepts.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 3:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> drive wheels
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also have to disagree with Bill that "when you completely lose front
>>>> traction, you also lose steering. But thanks to physics, that doesn't
>>>> occur until quite a bit further up the speed scale." I totally lost
>>>> directional ability in a Citation X-11 once just pulling away from a
>>>> stop sign on engine torque alone! The car went straight, towards
>>>> oncoming traffic, but at the last moment gained enough traction to 
>>>> shoot
>>>> off towards the proper lane.
>>>>
>>> Very few people lose traction accelerating and find themselves in a 
>>> dangerous situation. It's much more critical to retain traction
>>> when slowing or coming to a stop, so my comments were based on that sort 
>>> of situation.
>>>
>>> If you cannot keep traction when slowly accelerating from a stop, then 
>>> you have the wrong tires for the situation and it really
>>> wouldn't make much of a difference what the drivetrain design was.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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