<VV> Larry's Corvair Parts Needs Help !

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  This must be a totally isolated issue...by that I mean in the 
  next convention, no one is gonna use this _newly learned_ 
  "park and DRIVE" technique! .....right? 

  Plus, since there are so many rules about the type of screws and
  nuts (no pun intended), there must also be some progressive rules 
  to prevent this type of "them there trophies are mine" psyche !  ....no?

  If not, could somebody point me to an inexpensive overnight garage, 
  close to the next convention? -- (respond off vv please)  :))

  Regards,


  Tony


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Shapiro" <lashap at cox.net>
To: <AeroNed at aol.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Larry's Corvair Parts Needs Help !


> 
> Ned,
> since you and others asked.
> 
> 3 guys,
> Marty Katz, Bob Hoffman,and Joe Benites all tailored their cars within a few 
> blocks of the show site the night before.
> They put their cars in a garage overnight,and then drove their cars to the 
> show.
> They saved about 50 miles of driving which when you are splitting hairs to 
> pick a winner,can be alot of points.
> 
> I tailored my car to the show,but instead of cheating,I checked "tailored 
> car" on the judging sheet.
> This was a 2 point penalty for me to not drive my car to the show.
> 
> The rumor of this happening got to me pretty quick.
> When I approached my ex partner Marty,and asked him about it,he admitted 
> what they had done.
> I went to the concours people on duty at the time,and told them the facts.
> They talked it over,and then did nothing about it ,as they were afraid to 
> act.
> I guess the 3 guys when asked, lied to the concours people.
> 
> Anyway..I did win best of show,which was the correct result.
> 
> After that day,I lost most of my interest in showing cars.
> 
> I hate competing against cheaters and bad sports..
> 
> Bob Hoffman was such a bad sport,I heard him complaining the day after that 
> his car was best,and the judges sucked etc.
> 
> Something Hoffman doesn't know,is that in our local show,I beat him 5-6 
> times in a row,and then changed the score sheet to show he won.
> That shows how I could care less about another trophy,and I and the other 
> judges got a good laugh each time Bob accepted his 1st place trophy,when he 
> really didn't win.
> 
> After 32 years in the corvair business,I would love to write a book about 
> all the cheaters,ex employees that ripped me off,some which started their 
> own business with my parts,and other things that have happened.
> 
> I could go on,but I have to finish cleaning out my garage,so both of my cars 
> will fit in.
> 
> Back to you Ned,
> 
> Larry
> 
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>>
>> In a message dated 9/23/2006 12:11:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> lashap at cox.net writes:
>>
>>>  Ever since 3 guys cheated at the 1990 Ontario convention to try and beat
>>> me in the Concours ,I have lost interest in showing  cars.
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, I've got to ask, how do you cheat at concours? Do you bribe judges,
>> alter scoring sheets?
>>
>> Since we spent numerous post discussing the swim suit issue from years 
>> ago,
>> why can't we discuss what happened 16 years ago?
>>
>> Ned
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