<VV> japanese cars

[Kenneth E Pepke]

It is easy to squabble among ourselves and point the finger
at all the minor contributing factors.  Ignored has been the 
adversive business climate created by unreasonable and
irrational regualtions and taxation by the federal government.

But this discussion needs to go to VV-talk ... Please go there
for my response ... if you are interested.
Ken P
 


On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:11:37 -0500 jvhroberts at aol.com writes:
> 
> Well, the UAW certainly has been a HUGE problem...
> 
> Again, blaming the other guy for succeeding is silly. Winning by 
> excluding the best players from the game is insanity, and ruins the 
> game.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: airvair at earthlink.net <airvair at earthlink.net>
> To: jvhroberts at aol.com <jvhroberts at aol.com>; kenpepke at juno.com; 
> virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: <VV> japanese cars
> 
> First, when people who buy a Toyoto or Honda (or etc.) say "well, 
> it's
> built in the US, and they're employing US people to build them", I 
> reply "
> but WHERE do the profits go?" The transplants only USE American 
> labor to
> make profits. They have no intention of keeping the profits here. If 
> 
> they
> did, they'd move the corporation here. You don't see anyone doing 
> that, 
> do
> you?
> 
> Secondly, the problems facing the Detroit 3 are not all of their own
> making. Some of the problems which they can do nothing about are: 
> foreign
> governments that subsudize their industries (directly or 
> indirectly),
> governmental monetary manipulation, cheap foreign labor (in the form 
> of 
> low
> hourly wages, government-supplied health care, etc.), little or no
> retirement plans for both foreign and domestic workers (along with 
> little
> or no other non-wage benefits), and the list goes on....
> 
> Regardless of the current generous labor contracts, the US workers 
> can
> STILL compete with the best from any nation, IF the playing field is 
> 
> level.
> Sadly, it isn't.
> 
> -Mark
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > Subject: Re: <VV> japanese cars
> >
> > Japanese transplants use more and more domestically sourced parts 
> every
> > year.
> >
> > For all the grousing about them, nothing is, or should, change.
> > Protectionism is one of the things that drove us into the Great
> > Depression. Complaining about someone who has succeeded because 
> they
> > succeeded isn't going to change the behaviour of those who are
> > struggling. The issues with Detroit are PURELY Detroit's fault. 
> And
> > only theirs to fix.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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