<VV> FW: UPS Express Mail Scam - Buy some Corvair parts with the money

[Charles Lee]

OK. However, the "loss" is just the amount of the check that wasn't real
in the first place.

I agree someone could get your bank information, but that's on any check
you write, or any transaction that goes through your bank, so what's the
hazard?

A few years ago, I put my Corvair in an online ad (I think it was on the
CORSA classified site) and someone emailed me from England, offering my
5 times what I was asking, and asked me to pay the shipper to ship my
car there, "in good faith."  
Now THAT I can see as a scam, but just sending me a check ?

I got an email from a guy in Nigeria asking me if I want the money that
his family left to me.  I just have to open an account for him to send
me the money and put $1000 in the account, then wire him the AC # so he
can deposit my inheritance.  

Uh-huh.  What could go wrong with that ;>}? 

I'm trying to figure out how sending me a check can make anyone money?




-----Original Message-----
From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Marc Marcoulides
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:57 PM
To: VirtualVairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> FW: UPS Express Mail Scam - Buy some Corvair parts
with the money

The agency I work for is owned by a bank so I will tell you how many of
such scams work: the checks look very real and scammers use real company
checks as a model making them take longer to be returned than a check
that is simply drawn on a non-existant account. When returned the bank
takes the money out of your account, hence, your loss. Banks do not have
a responsibility when the check is not issued by thier depositor.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Lee <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
>Sent: Oct 25, 2008 7:46 PM
>To: 'Virtual Vairs' <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
>Subject: <VV> FW: UPS Express Mail Scam - Buy some Corvair parts with
the	money
>
>What is the complete scam ?  What does the letter say about what to do
>before cashing the check ?
>
>Seems "risk free" to me - simply return it if the bank notices (and
>there's a good chance once they have it, they won't.)
>
>My brother once tried to get some extra time to pay some bills by
>putting the wrong name on the checks or not signing them, but they
>cleared them anyway. 
>
>The bank also has a responsibility - and a liability ? - if they
"clear"
>it.  If they come back two months later, say "Sorry - prove it."
>
>Buy some Corvair parts with the money <-- Corvair content 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
>[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Ron
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:13 AM
>To: Grant Young; virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> UPS Express Mail Scam - No Corvair
>
>So, cash it and see what happens.  You can always return the money if
>they 
>screw up and give it to you.
>RonH
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Grant Young" <gyoungwolf at earthlink.net>
>To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:46 AM
>Subject: <VV> UPS Express Mail Scam - No Corvair
>
>
>> Thought you might like to know and be on the lookout for a real UPS 
>> Express envelope containing a fake cashiers check and note. Mine was 
>> delivered Thursday by UPS from a place called Mortgage Help Services 
>> Limited in Johnson Creek, WI. But when I checked the tracking number
>it 
>> shows that it actually was shipped from Van Nuys, CA. I suspect the
>$1200 
>> value of the check from Harriet, Inc. was selected because it is the
>same 
>> as the government checks some families got that were supposed to save
>the 
>> world a few months ago. UPS is not interested in doing anything about
>it, 
>> so I am sending the package to a friend of mine who happens to be the

>> Secretary of State for Florida. Please let me know via a private
reply
>if 
>> you have gotten anything similar and I will pass it on to him. Maybe
>we 
>> can stop this before some of person down here falls for it :-).
>> Thanks,
>> Grant
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