<VV> I got the 63 spyder on Ebay
Jim Gammon
gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 14 11:38:41 EDT 2010
Yes, we won the auction.
As a result of information, very much apppreciated help, we contacted Tony and he agreed to inspect the car.
Tony really knows his stuff, and confirmed the car was in excellent condition. He took a couple of pictures of the underside, and it is pretty clean. He mentioned the changes from original, and we have them on record.
We won the auction at $10,500 and we think we got a good deal, The interior is all new, and the engine, turbo and trans are in good shape, all being rebuilt not too many miles ago.
We are awaiting delivery in couple of weeks, and we are very excited.
Much thanks to several people who offered advice! VV rocks!
Now I have to figure out how much I'll do to our old 64, we don't have room for two cars!
Jim and Wanda, NJ shore
--- On Tue, 4/13/10, John Gull <johngull at bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: John Gull <johngull at bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: VirtualVairs Digest, Vol 63, Issue 38
To: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 8:41 PM
Jim, did you ever here from Bill about the Spyder? It was owned by an older
fellow in Asheville. Did you win this car? John
John Gull
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Asheville, NC 28816
828-712-7902
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3. Re: Awards, was: Convention Schedule (kenpepke at juno.com)
4. WAS: Don't Judge the Undercarriage - NOW: How to reply -
RANT! (Ed Dowds)
5. Sweet Breenbrier (Ian Harding)
6. Re: Awards, was: Convention Schedule (airvair at earthlink.net)
7. Re: Seen in Sebastapol (J R Read_HML)
8. Re: Corviar spyder on ebay (Bruce Schug)
9. Fw: Don't Judge the Undercarriage (Michael Kovacs)
10. Re: Awards, was: Convention Schedule (Vairtec Corporation)
11. Re: Corviar spyder on ebay (Jim Gammon)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:38:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com>
Subject: <VV> Corviar spyder on ebay
To: corvair list <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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Anyone here know this car?? It looks sweet.
?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230457485315&s
sPageName=ADME:B:BCA:MOTORS:1123
?
JimG NJ
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:47:56 GMT
From: "kenpepke at juno.com" <kenpepke at juno.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Convention Scheduling (was: Iowa Convention
Schedule)
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Message-ID: <20100410.074756.17231.1 at webmail11.dca.untd.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Thank you, Mike ... and feel free to pass along ...
Ken P
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Mike Jacobi <mvjacobi at comcast.net> wrote:
Ken well said. I would like to pass this on to other car clubs planning
conventions.
Mike
On 4/9/10 6:35 AM, "kenpepke at juno.com" <kenpepke at juno.com> wrote:
>
>
> One would think the purpose of CORSA conventions is to: [in no particular
> order] Promote the restoration, preservation, and use of Corvair
automobiles;
> to bring persons of like minded interests together; to promote CORSA
> membership; to promote public awareness. Keeping those parameters in
mind, a
> convention schedule could focus on providing the greatest number of events
> with a minimum of overlap.
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:03:07 GMT
From: "kenpepke at juno.com" <kenpepke at juno.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Awards, was: Convention Schedule
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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BOB SAID ... I guess the CORSA concours committee suffered from NIH because
no future
convention used our computerized tallying. I do not know how it is
being done today.
---------------------------------------
Obviously a good idea lost by the 'reinvention of the wheel' method of
convention planning. Another good reason to standardize CORSA Conventions.
Ken P
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Vairtec Corporation <Vairtec at optonline.net> wrote:
Au contraire, Mark.
Detroit 1979 may in fact have been the cluster that you describe, but at
Parisppany in 1984 the concours was held on Saturday, the last day of
the convention, and the day of the banquet. We were told it couldn't be
done. Hogwash. We devised a computerized tallying system and,
utilizing only three humans, had all the results organized and ready
well in advance of the banquet.
In fact, it went so smoothly that we wound up second-guessing
ourselves. It was too easy. So as the banquet was getting under way,
our tabulators went back and did a few random cars' sheets by hand, the
old way, to check. All was perfect.
I guess the CORSA concours committee suffered from NIH because no future
convention used our computerized tallying. I do not know how it is
being done today. Has the concours committee discovered EXCEL yet?
--Bob Marlow
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:54:38 -0400
From: Ed Dowds <ed_dowds at hotmail.com>
Subject: <VV> WAS: Don't Judge the Undercarriage - NOW: How to reply -
RANT!
To: virtual vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Message-ID: <SNT104-W16FABA7A1B1B2213FB55B8FA140 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I receive VV emails in digest mode so I can quickly sort out which emails I
want to read.
Occasionally, someone replies to a digest email and inadvertently copies the
ENTIRE digest post, i.e. ALL the emails in that digest. It is a little
annoying, but life is too short to worry about occasional happenings.
A real problem arises when someone replies to the first reply and CONTINUES
to copy the ENTIRE digest! The last few digest postings have had this very
problem. This snowballed when even more people replied. Half of the digest's
contents were repostings of the first copied digest!
Guys and Gals: please look at what you are posting. There is a delete key on
every computer I've ever seen. Learn to use it , please.
Now back to your regular reading.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 05:55:00 -0700
From: Ian Harding <harding.ian at gmail.com>
Subject: <VV> Sweet Breenbrier
To: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Message-ID: <CE917504-CD4E-42BD-AF5B-7230CC589F4E at gmail.com>
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In Bremerton!
http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/clt/1680189591.html
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:47:13 +0000
From: "airvair at earthlink.net" <airvair at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> Awards, was: Convention Schedule
To: <airvair at earthlink.net>,"Vairtec Corporation"
<Vairtec at optonline.net>
Cc: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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Bob, you have to remember that that was in the days before computers.
-mark
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To: <airvair at earthlink.net>,"Vairtec Corporation" <Vairtec at optonline.net>
Cc: "Virtual Vairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Date: Fri, Apr 9, 6:49 PM -0400
Subject: Re: <VV> Awards, was: Convention Schedule
Au contraire, Mark.
Detroit 1979 may in fact have been the cluster that you describe, but at
Parisppany in 1984 the concours was held on Saturday, the last day of
the convention, and the day of the banquet. We were told it couldn't be
done. Hogwash. We devised a computerized tallying system and,
utilizing only three humans, had all the results organized and ready
well in advance of the banquet.
In fact, it went so smoothly that we wound up second-guessing
ourselves. It was too easy. So as the banquet was getting under way,
our tabulators went back and did a few random cars' sheets by hand, the
old way, to check. All was perfect.
I guess the CORSA concours committee suffered from NIH because no future
convention used our computerized tallying. I do not know how it is
being done today. Has the concours committee discovered EXCEL yet?
--Bob Marlow
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:38:31 -0500
From: "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> Seen in Sebastapol
To: "Ian Harding" <harding.ian at gmail.com>, "Virtual Vairs"
<virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Message-ID: <F5CA6B3D8A8A4108B815498B870B7DC1 at OFFICEDELL>
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Wait a minute..
That skyline looks strangely like Arizona.
Later, JR
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:07:48 -0400
From: Bruce Schug <bwschug at att.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> Corviar spyder on ebay
To: Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com>, VirtualVairs
<VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
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On Apr 10, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Jim Gammon wrote:
> Anyone here know this car? It looks sweet.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230457485315&s
sPageName=ADME:B:BCA:MOTORS:1123
>
>
Jim,
"logg" is the ebay identity of a man in Anderson, SC that sells cars
for Jerry Wells, also of Anderson, SC, on ebay. Jerry is part owner
of a used car business in Anderson, and a member of CORSA and CORSA
SC. Jerry buys and sells a lot of Corvairs, most of them selling on
ebay. He seems to get them out of thin air, which is to say, if
there's a Corvair for sale in the southeast, Jerry probably knows
about it. If he thinks he can make some money on it, he'll probably
buy it.
I think most of the cars he buys need some work done to them. Jerry
is not a mechanic and uses two or three Corvair mechanics to work on
these cars for him. The bodywork is done by a relative, I think it's
a brother-in-law, who has a body shop.
Jerry's phone number usually appears in the ad and you can always call
him about the car. In this ad, he mentions Bill Prichard, in Black
Mountain, NC, also a member of CORSA, CORSA SC, and CORSA NC. Bill is
a friend of many of us and an excellent mechanic. He is active in the
Highlands Sports Car Club of Asheville, NC, and often does the
announcing for area autocrosses and hill climbs, including
conventions. Bill is sort of the "Voice of Autocrossing" in the SE.
You can call Bill about this particular car at: 828-669-7076.
I am usually not familiar with the cars Jerry sells, as they usually
come from out of this area. Once in a while he drives one to a
meeting or calls me to tell me about a particular car he's bought. I
have no knowledge of this car.
Jerry usually seems to do well selling these Corvairs on ebay. Some
times he gets taken, like anyone would, by buying a car then finding
it needs more than he expected in order to sell it. Sometimes he gets
more than the car is worth and I think he would tell you that
himself. Sometimes he gets a dead-beat buyer who backs out of the
purchase. His ebay ads are generally well-written and include good
pictures. All of the cars he sells seem to be "stunning" a word that
seems to add $500 to the value of a car on ebay. You'll notice,
however, there are no pictures of the underside of this car. There is
also no mention of awards this car has won at area shows or concours.
Tony Ellison lives closer to Jerry and sometimes has knowledge of the
cars he's selling. Tony is a well-known racer, mechanic, and all-
around nice person and member of CORSA SC and CORSA. Tony's number
is: 864-964-9835. I don't have time to go and look at this car for
you, before it sells, but for a few bucks, Tony might, if you're
seriously considering bidding. If I can be of more help to you, my
phone number is 864-268-2884.
Bruce
Bruce W. Schug
CORSA South Carolina
CORSA member since 1980
Performance Corvair Group
Stock Corvair Group
VirtualVairs
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'67 Monza, "67AC140"
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:28:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Kovacs <kovacsmj at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: <VV> Fw: Don't Judge the Undercarriage
To: VV <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Message-ID: <93593.43809.qm at web82008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
If you read Bob Marlows mail, Bob had to go outside to look at?my car to be
sure the computer program was correct.??
?..........."In fact, it went so smoothly that we wound up
second-guessing?ourselves"...................?
?MIKE KOVACS
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From: Michael Kovacs <kovacsmj at sbcglobal.net>
To: Wayne B. <afvair at yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 6:06:41 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Don't Judge the Undercarriage
?My .02 Perhaps we should also not judge the engine compartment,?as it too
can get dirty, likewise the same should go for the floors, as a long
trip?certainly will get something on it too. Oh yeah, the bugs on the front.
I Hate to have to clean them off.
? At the CORSA?'84 national, I trailered the car in, then ran in the rally,
the autocross, found out that the oil cap came off and drenched the entire
engine compartment in nice clean oil. It took a can of gunk and the hotels
dock cleaning hose to get?the car?clean again. I guess you know the score.?I
still was able to get best in show. The car was still a gold winner at the
Pennsylvania national.
?Keep it tough. There are too many excellent cars out there. Detailing gets
it done.
MIKE KOVACS
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:39:57 -0400
From: Vairtec Corporation <Vairtec at optonline.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> Awards, was: Convention Schedule
To: "airvair at earthlink.net"
<airvair at earthlink.net>,airvair at earthlink.net
Cc: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Message-ID: <20100410143949.77352378A1 at tiger.skiblack.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 09:47 AM 4/10/2010, airvair at earthlink.net wrote:
>Bob, you have to remember that that was in the days before computers.
Yes, Mark, but you were trying to make the point that the concours
"can't" be on the same day as the banquet. It can.
--Bob
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Gammon <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Corviar spyder on ebay
To: VirtualVairs <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>, Bruce Schug
<bwschug at att.net>
Message-ID: <238308.17092.qm at web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Thank you! I'm waiting for a call back from Bill, but the number for Tony
does not go through.
?
I am heartened, since my wife has been?bidding on it, that?Jerry?exists and
knows Corvairs, at least.
?
Jim?
--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Bruce Schug <bwschug at att.net> wrote:
From: Bruce Schug <bwschug at att.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> Corviar spyder on ebay
To: "Jim Gammon" <gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com>, "VirtualVairs"
<VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 10:07 AM
On Apr 10, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Jim Gammon wrote:
> Anyone here know this car?? It looks sweet.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230457485315&s
sPageName=ADME:B:BCA:MOTORS:1123
>
>
Jim,
"logg" is the ebay identity of a man in Anderson, SC that sells cars for
Jerry Wells, also of Anderson, SC, on ebay.? Jerry is part owner of a used
car business in Anderson, and a member of CORSA and CORSA SC.? Jerry buys
and sells a lot of Corvairs, most of them selling on ebay.? He seems to get
them out of thin air, which is to say, if there's a Corvair for sale in the
southeast, Jerry probably knows about it.? If he thinks he can make some
money on it, he'll probably buy it.
I think most of the cars he buys need some work done to them.? Jerry is not
a mechanic and uses two or three Corvair mechanics to work on these cars for
him.? The bodywork is done by a relative, I think it's a brother-in-law, who
has a body shop.
Jerry's phone number usually appears in the ad and you can always call him
about the car.? In this ad, he mentions Bill Prichard, in Black Mountain,
NC, also a member of CORSA, CORSA SC, and CORSA NC.? Bill is a friend of
many of us and an excellent mechanic.? He is active in the Highlands Sports
Car Club of Asheville, NC, and often does the announcing for area
autocrosses and hill climbs, including conventions.? Bill is sort of the
"Voice of Autocrossing" in the SE.? You can call Bill about this particular
car at: 828-669-7076.
I am usually not familiar with the cars Jerry sells, as they usually come
from out of this area.? Once in a while he drives one to a meeting or calls
me to tell me about a particular car he's bought.? I have no knowledge of
this car.
Jerry usually seems to do well selling these Corvairs on ebay.? Some times
he gets taken, like anyone would, by buying a car then finding it needs more
than he expected in order to sell it.? Sometimes he gets more than the car
is worth and I think he would tell you that himself.? Sometimes he gets a
dead-beat buyer who backs out of the purchase.? His ebay ads are generally
well-written and include good pictures.? All of the cars he sells seem to be
"stunning" a word that seems to add $500 to the value of a car on ebay.?
You'll notice, however, there are no pictures of the underside of this car.?
There is also no mention of awards this car has won at area shows or
concours.
Tony Ellison lives closer to Jerry and sometimes has knowledge of the cars
he's selling.? Tony is a well-known racer, mechanic, and all-around nice
person and member of CORSA SC and CORSA.? Tony's number is: 864-964-9835.? I
don't have time to go and look at this car for you, before it sells, but for
a few bucks, Tony might, if you're seriously considering bidding.? If I can
be of more help to you, my phone number is 864-268-2884.
Bruce
Bruce W. Schug
CORSA South Carolina
CORSA member since 1980
Performance Corvair Group
Stock Corvair Group
VirtualVairs
FastVairs
'67 Monza, "67AC140"
bwschug at att.net
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