<VV> Starter installation - crossing the "R" and "B" leads

Charles Lee Chaz at ProperProper.com
Tue Aug 17 13:07:58 EDT 2010

Another interesting dilemma can be tightening the "R" lead on the starter so 
it touches the "B" (battery cable).

No sparks or any indication of a problem, until you start it and drive it.

Now turning the key to "off" does NOT stop the engine !

Also the car is too hot to go under to see it or fix it, and the car keeps 
running ?!?!?!?

So, I got a long extension cord, threaded it under the coil wire and yanked, 
watching sparks fly  !!

But it stopped, and after cooling, I moved the "R" lead away from the "B" 

That was fun ...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill H." <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: <VV> Thank you all...Starter install, and A/C Update


I'd like to thank everyone for your excellent advice in replacing a starter. 
removed the rear wheel, disconnected the 4 inch heater hose, and had the new
unit in, within 30 minutes.

That doesn't count the fact that when I had the car back together, I forgot 
put the heater hose back on, or the fact that I couldn't start the car 
(I think) the condenser wire at the coil came out of the condenser body and
shorted on the ground.

I've got the bottom shrouds back on, I de-flashed the heads last week. The 
areas around the spark plugs were pretty much clogged closed, and I was
fortunate enough to be able to clear all 6 areas out completely. Before I 
the turkey roaster back on, I vacuumed the entire engine bay. I also took 
cover off the oil cooler and vacuumed the leaves and stuff out.

In close to 90 degree heat, in heavy city traffic with the A/C on 
the hottest the oil temp goes is around 220 degrees. That happened in about 
hour of driving. If I remember correctly, it would approach 260 degrees 
I did the de-flashing job.

When installing an in-dash A/C in a Late Vair, you have to install the 
dash vents so that the surface of the vent is perfectly vertical. The dash
curves downward, and if you install the vents flush with the dash, they will
point down to the floor, thus wasting cool air that should be directed 
not downward. The vents are "cocked" so they are vertical, and you have to
ensure that the balls move easily in their housing. That way, you can direct
the air upward and cooling is maximized.

Also, Clark's instructions say that it's not uncommon for some leakage of
refrigerant in a new compressor, I assume until the seals are 
and "break" in to their housing. I found I needed an extra squirt of
refrigerant to get the air nice and cold, but now it's really nice.

They're right in that you have to tint your windows. The sun can be a real 
when it's hot outside and you're trying to keep the interior cool.
Unfortunately, today's tinting is "smoke" color which is modern, but doesn't
match the original green/blue tint that was used back when the cars were 
But it does the job nevertheless.

I re-wired the Clark's kit with two additional switches, one switch moves 
between the evaporator and the heater system, the other sends 12V to the
compressor wire. There are a couple of advantages to these:

1. You aren't limited to the temperature set at the heater. You can set the
heater on any setting, and as long as the switch is in the Heater position, 
will be as if you didn't have an A/C system at all.
2. You can turn the evaporator blower system on, without the compressor. 
gives a VENT setting which blows a nice stream of non-refrigerated air 
the A/C vents. With the windows and crotch coolers open, it improves
ventilation dramatically. Flip the "A/C" switch on, and you get refrigerated
air. I added a green LED to indicate that the compressor is operating.

Clark's standard installation combines the heater and A/C in one control, 
limits flexibilty of the system.

Regards to all...Bill Hershkowitz Brooklyn, New York 69 Monza Coupe 110 PG

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