<VV> For Sale Clarks Early floor kit

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Sun Jul 11 21:59:45 EDT 2010


Where are you located? I have a 1960 Monza that needs  front left and  
right floor pans.
 
 
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Today's  Topics:

1. Re: Marshalltown (Bob Dunahugh)
2. Re: generator (J R Read_HML)
3. LM PG Cable (Vairtec  Corporation)
4. Re: Clark's A/C Instruction booklet (John  O'Shea)
5. Re: generator (Sethracer at aol.com)
6. For Sale Clarks Early floor kit (Mike Moyer)
7. Re: 1965  Monza 4-door on eBay - Coupe not Wrong
(airvair at earthlink.net)
8. Subaru driving  (levair at aol.com)


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Message:  1
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:34:50 -0500
From: Bob Dunahugh  <yenko108 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Marshalltown
To:  Warren LeVeque <levair at aol.com>, Virtaul Vairs
<virtualvairs at corvair.org>,      <fastvair at yahoogroups.com>, Mike McGowan
<mcvair at sbcglobal.net>
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Note from Linda
My typing error  from score sheets.   Mark Aksamit... #! 108.39      #2   
97.510       #3   106.224
Also  Rocco Egzio  4th run 88.566  Ted Cunneen 4th run 85.859    5 key was 
sticking...thought I caught them on but on triple checking found  these 2 yet
and Andy Kinzelman  oops I had dropped your z.
Hope you  guys had a good time.  

> To: levair at aol.com;  Virtualvairs at corvair.org; fastvair at yahoogroups.com; 
Yenko108 at hotmail.com;  McVair at sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: Marshalltown
> Date: Sat, 10  Jul 2010 18:11:45 -0400
> From: levair at aol.com
> 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: levair at aol.com
> To:  Virtualvairs at corvair.org; fastvair at yahoogroups.com; 
>  Yenko108 at hotmail.com; McVair at sbcblobal.net
> Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010  12:25 pm
> Subject: Marshalltown
> 
> Due to the  underwhelming response to corrections to the resultsl these
> are the  final ones.
> I kown for instance that Mark Aksamit and Travis Bolton  did not turn 4
> identical times.
> Entrants were invited at the  track to conme up and correct their info
> also. so be it.      Marshalltown 2010
> Results
> Michael  LeVeque   75.678  ERR   75.339       CC   Anderson IN
> David  Clemmens   77.509  77.63 76.668  75.367    CC  Roanoke VA
> Warren LeVeque   77.536  76.133  76.668  75.529  SC2 Anderson IN
> Richard Loving     96.276  80.541 78.916 78.881  CC   Kankake  IL
> Tim Mahler            81.976   80.635  87.147 80.858  CC  Springfield IL
> 
>  Tracy LeVeque     82.871  81.617  82.231 81.718   CCL Anderson, IN
> Jim Dallas           84.19   85.37  84.113  84.011    SM3   Benton, KS
> 
> Seth Emerson     85.928  85.413  84.399  84.771   IS5   San Jose CA
> Ted Cunneen         86.93    86.079  86.296  88.9       IS5   Lombard IL
> Roger Ringelstetter 97.569   87.303  87.689  86.411 IS3
> 
> John Gray     89.433  87.486  87.569   86.829  IS5 Oshawa, Ont.
> Robert Dunahugh  90.382   87.242  87.233  87.979   IS5 Cedar Rapids, IA
> Ben  Ringelstetter 89.377  87.953  89.144  88.886    IS3
> Rocco Egzio          88.771   88.962  88.595  88.66   IS3
> Chuck Armer   toomuch 91.19  89.464  89.27     IS5  Chamblee, GA
> Mark Aksamit        91.979  90.498  90.069  89.293  IS3
> Travis  Bolton        91.979  90.498  90.069   89.293  IS3  Liberty,  MO
> Scott Trunkhill   94.771  92.469  89.397  89.89      IS5  Augusta, SC
> Steve Ridderman   90.645   90.732  90.347  90.806  CC Gobles, MI
> Andy  Kinelman     94.196  91.386  91.798   92.161  IS3  Racine WI
> Warren Knaub     95.909  91.734  93.501  92.406  SM1   Cross Plains, WI
> Ryan Counterman 103.512  100.86     CC  Cedar Springs,  MI
> Chip Ostrand         105.844   101.317                     SS4
> Kenosha, WI
> Scott Allison     101.356  101.919
> Grain Valley, MO
>  Mark Whitman       107.455
> Clark Hartzel    Worker
> IS5   Fraser, MI
> Ed Cunneen
>      CC
> Terry  Kalp
>              Valley Center,  KS
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Message:  2
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:21:57 -0500
From: "J R Read_HML"  <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> generator
To:  "Richard/Gail Spiess" <spiessdg at yahoo.com>,
<virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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A used generator should be pretty easy to find, or  rebuild yours.  I 
suppose 
shipping would be a consideration if  ordering from a vendor (they are not 
light), so proximity - East coast VS  West coast - could affect final cost.
Later, JR

----- Original  Message ----- 
From: "Richard/Gail Spiess"  <spiessdg at yahoo.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent:  Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: <VV>  generator




Please do not try to open any attachment to this  e-mail unless there is a 
specific message in the body of the email and the  email has a subject line 
that makes sense. We've gotten a virus and cannot  fix it yet. Thanks for 
your patience. - Dick and Gail Spiess

The  generator on my 64 Spyder gave up the ghost yesterday. Is Clarks the 
best  place to go and should I be looking for someone to Chrome the  
replacement?

Dick



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Message: 3
Date: Sun,  11 Jul 2010 13:44:10 -0400
From: Vairtec Corporation  <Vairtec at optonline.net>
Subject: <VV> LM PG Cable
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Okay, gang, I am about to  help a fellow club member install a new 
(from Clark's) Powerglide cable in  his LM coupe.  The car is stock in 
every regard so there are no  unusual things to be considered.

What helpful hints and tricks have you  discovered through the years?

What hazards, pitfalls, and easy-to-make  mistakes await us?

--Bob  Marlow



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Message:  4
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:38:29 -0700
From: "John O'Shea"  <jco99 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> Clark's A/C Instruction  booklet
To: "Virtual Vairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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I installed a 66 factory system in my 65.  I  used the Clark's repro of the 
GM manual and the Clark's templates.   Can't verify if 69 models have all 
the 
dimples in the body, but the 65 and  66 models come from the factory with 
locating dimples for add-on factory  A/C systems.

Examine the area just below your windshield wiper  motor.  If 69s have 
them, 
you should find dimples for two of the  evaporator bolts and the cutout for 
the liquid line to the  evaporator.  To the right of the passenger 
windshield 
squirter there  should be dimples to locate the factory fresh air cutout. 
The blower  housing requires one big cutout, not two.

I believe there was also a  dimple to locate the large hole on the 
passenger 
side just below the rear  seat cushion where the evaporator suction line 
goes 
from inside the car to  underneath.  I also mounted a modern parallel flow 
condenser in the  trunk with a large fan in the bottom of the trunk.

If you are  installing a factory system and you intend to use R-134A 
refrigerant, you  may want to convert all the connections to modern O-ring 
fittings.
All  modern cars for quite few years have used O-ring connections.  R-134A  
really doesn't like Corvair style hose barbs and hose clamps.

Those  that have installed a factory A/C chime in here.

A Corvair without A/C  in a Las Vegas summer is a Corvair from Hell!
Jack - Vegas  Vairs



----- Original Message ----- 
From:  <Taruffi57 at aol.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent:  Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> Clark's A/C  Instruction booklet


> Massive Confusion.
>
> After a  read-through and looking at the templates I was sent by Clark's, 
I
>  find these points confusing:  AND, several of their pics are so black  
and
> poor that you can't see detail.
> (a)  Pg. 19 of  booklet:  Reference to drilling of a hole at  "A".  There 
 
> is
> no "A" in the pic but it may be in a black/dark area  which  would be from
> Clark's poor copying of this  booklet.
> (b)  Pg. 19 of booklet.  Hole "C" - which appears  to be hose hole  for 
> line
> from Dryer to Evaporator, is  shown right where I think the Blower Assy.
> has to sit.  This has  to be wrong.
> (c)  I can find no reference to exactly where you  position the Blower
> template to cut the large hole - or is it 2  holes(?) to mount the Blower 
> Assy.
> (d)  there is not one  pic of the blower holes - cut, nor any pic of  the
> blower mounted  in position in this instructional booklet.  In short, I 
>  know
> where it goes, but I'm not going to cut until I know EXACTLY  where to 
> cut.
> (e)  no mention of moving the Windshield  Washer Bracket/Tank  Assy. nor
> where to re-mount it.
>  (f)  1 or 2 of the Templates have 2 Templates overlayed each other  on  
the
> same sheet of paper - with instructions to cut them  out.  Not only is 
> there
> NO wording on those Templates to  say WHAT they are for, but it is not
> clear exactly where to cut to  separate them.
>
> I am doing a trunk-mount Condenser new A/C  installation on my '69  Coupe.
> All of the above makes me wonder  what confusion I will run  into when I 
> get
> into mounting  the Evaporator and the Engine area parts.
>
> While I certainly  appreciate the vast effort someone put into creating 
> this
>  manual, there are also other small points of confusion for the  
first-time
> installer where it appears that the manual writer assumed  that we would
> already  know details.  I think I'm better  than average at figuring out 
a 
> lot
> of  things -  mechanical, but it seems to me that when you write a manual 
>  such
> as  this, you have to assume that the reader may be a  1st-time, 
> cold-turkey
> installer who needs everything written  out in clear step-by-step 
sequence.
>
> I'll be calling Clark's on  Monday morning.
>
> Joe Dunlap
> Florida
> 2  Corvairs
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Message: 5
Date: Sun,  11 Jul 2010 17:46:35 EDT
From: Sethracer at aol.com
Subject: Re: <VV>  generator
To: hmlinc at sbcglobal.net, spiessdg at yahoo.com,  virtualvairs at corvair.org
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In a message dated 7/11/2010 10:24:22 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,  
hmlinc at sbcglobal.net writes:

A  used  generator should be pretty easy to find, or rebuild yours.  I  
suppose  
shipping would be a consideration if ordering from a  vendor (they are not  
light), so proximity - East coast VS West coast  - could affect final  cost.
Later, JR






If  you find a shop that offers you the option of an in-stock rebuilt unit  
 
or to rebuild yours, Make sure that the unit they supply you is identical  
in 
every respect - Or have them rebuild yours, if yours is an original. I  
would  choose to have them rebuild the original!

Seth   Emerson

C's the Day! - Corvair,  Camaro, Corvette

San Jose,  CA



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Message: 6
Date:  Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:28:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Moyer  <vairvert67 at yahoo.com>
Subject: <VV> For Sale Clarks Early  floor kit
To: virtual vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>,     corvanatics
<corvanatics at corvair.org>
Message-ID:  <683913.85559.qm at web36108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Purchased 1964 parts car and it came with  

Clarks Part number C10404:            STEEL FLOOR  KIT-60-64 CARS with 
rubber 
plugs


Part  Number  C3760R: 9 x RUBBER PLUG-FLOOR &  TRUNK-60-64**ALSO**  
Part Number  C8407: 1 x 60-64 FT LEFT STEEL FLOOR PANEL--22 GA  
Part Number  C8408: 1 x 60-64 FT RIGHT STEEL FLOOR PANEL-22 GA  
Part Number  C8947: 1 x 60-64 REAR LEFT FLOOR PANEL-22 GA  
Part Number  C8948: 1 x 60-64 REAR RIGHT FLOOR PANEL-22 GA  Clarks list for 
344.10

also have a
Clarks front valance C1500  List$ 97.00
Clarks rear lower panel C1530X List $197

Entertaining  reasonable offers
850-261-1709
Mike Moyer
CorvanAntics Editor
1963  Corvair 95 84hp Powerglide 24K miles
1965 Greenbrier 110hp 4 Spd
1965  Monza Convertible 140hp 4spd 3:55 Posi AM/FM





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Message: 7
Date: Sun,  11 Jul 2010 22:35:45 +0000
From: "airvair at earthlink.net"  <airvair at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 Monza 4-door on  eBay - Coupe not Wrong
To:  <virtualvairs at corvair.org>,<tommy5styx at npgcable.com>
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True, styling is mostly subjective. To each  his own.

The point I've been trying to get across to everyone is that  the 
conventional wisdom thet "everyone wants ONLY 2doors" is wrong. Just  because a car 
is a 4door doesn't mean it should be used up, worn out, parted  out,and 
thrown away. I fear that too many good 4doors are thusly lost because  of that 
wrong-headed assumption.

I've been keeping a 4door registry and  am thinking of starting a 4door SIG 
(wagons welcome) in CORSA just for that  purpose. Hopefully that will help 
preserve some truely underappreciated and  beautiful cars.

-Mark 

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From:  <tommy5styx at npgcable.com>
To:  <virtualvairs at corvair.org>,<tommy5styx at npgcable.com>
Date: Sun,  Jul 11, 10:05 AM -0500
Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 Monza 4-door on eBay -  Coupe not Wrong

I guess that is the good thing about styling, it is  completely subjective. 
 IMO, the late model coupe is a beautiful design,  with no need to wonder 
if it is rear engined or not, with styling that spawned  the '66 Chevelle 
(best year IMO) and the Camaro.  The 4dr Hardtop is  probably the most 
attractive 4dr car ever, but it is still a 4dr, and the  styling for the coupe 
wouldn't work on it any better than the styling from the  4dr working on the 
coupe  As much as I admire John Fitch, I have always  seen the "vent top" roof 
addition as the perfect Pep Boys accessory to ruin an  already beautiful, 
NARROW C-pillar.  Take a look at a '62 Chevy  bubbletop, not that the Impala 
roofline isn't also beautiful, but if I had to  choose one or the 
other.....color me  bubbly.

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I couldn't agree more.  What I was refering to when I said they failed is 
the fact that the roofline,  while pleasant enough, doesn't resemble their 
objective look (the full-size  fastback). It needs a broader "C" pillar in 
order to do that, which is why the  ventop looks so good on it. John Fitch knew 
what he was doing, and he is a man  of  style.

-Mark

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Message:  8
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:20:17 -0400
From: levair at aol.com
Subject:  <VV> Subaru driving
To: virtualvairs at Corvair.org,  fastvair at yahoogroups.com,
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I had a great experience  today guest driving a  400 HP AWD Subaru WRX 
which was very well  prepared. This car is often FTD at our events.
Many thanks to  Chuck Mcmillion for the chance and the preparation.

We had five runs at  Grissom AFB near Kokomo IN. Grissom is very grippy 
concrete and the  courses are quite fast and flowing.

Where these  4 wheel drive  cars really excel is on the less grippy 
surfaces, so the concrete was sort  of an uphill test.
Due to having 3 drivers and two class, I  had to run in SM instead of 
SMS. That put me in the same class as my son's  street driven YS 045 
Stinger.
My SMS  class  had to run in the FIRST heat and the other 2 drivers 
in the 2nd heat, so I  had to learn nearly every thing on my own by 
trying and failing. I had  never  even sat in one of these cars before 
and had never raced a car  with power steering and power brakes: much 
less AWD.
I  had tons of well meant advice, but my head was swimming.
I  went 2 seconds faster on my 2nd run buy not thinking so much.
By trying very hard , but relaxing   and  letting  the car come to 
me I was able to finish in the same 48 sec bracket as the  no 2 driver 
but not in the same bracket as Chuck's  low 47s and high  46s.
I surprisingly, was able to get the car to rotate some  in the 
sweepers; then I got way too brave on my last run and rotated it  360 
degrees.
In the next heat I got to ride with  Chuck and learn how to 
correctly drive the car: too little too late of  course.
. An interesting thing that I did learn, that Front drivers and FWD  
drivers obviously already knew , was the acceleration inward toward the  
apex with increased power application. Acceleration in the direction  
that the wheels were turned.
Chuck tried 2nd gear in the  fast sweeper that I been using 3rd gear 
in. The extra power drew the car  inward toward the shorter/closer line. 
Rear wheel drive cars push outward  with the same power application 
unless using power on, tail out oversteer  (if there is room to do so). 
.The favorite line of the AWD cars seems to  be hard braking to get 
pointed in and then huge power  application.
There is a lot of cammaradie in this class of  cars and they are very 
popular.A great asset is that the car also be used  for very many other 
activities. Lets' see, what else can I use my modified  car for????
I was pleased and satisfied with my performance  and thrilled to get 
the chance to participate in this form of  racing.

Hmmm,, amy more loaner cars out there? I've been loaning mine a  lot  
lately.

Warren







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