<VV> CORSA sour grapes and bod bashing

Louis Armer carmerjr at mindspring.com
Wed Mar 10 22:55:55 EST 2010


Hi Robby, Since you are joining in on the CORSA 
bashing and you state you have been a member for 
20 years, How many new members have you brought 
to CORSA in those 20 years and what were your recruiting tactics?

Sincerely,
Chuck Armer
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At 02:24 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:
>   have been a CORSA member since the early 90's and I hear the same thing
> > every year - "we are working to increase membership and income" and yet
> > every year membership falls.  So obviously in 20 years, the BoD has yet to
> > figure out the problem.  I belong to many car clubs, CORSA costs the most
> > and provides the least.  The Communique is becoming something I can read in
> > one bathroom setting and then discard.  It has no real value IMHO and to be
> > honest when my membership expires this year I expect CORSA to lose one more
> > member.  I see no reason to pay $45 a year so I can attend a convention.
> >
> > Everyone is talking about taking surveys about this and that - try a couple
> > of surveys such as "How many NEW members has CORSA gained in the past 5
> > years?" or "How many members are under the age of 30?"  I think you will
> > find the problem with CORSA with both of those - an aging membership and a
> > failure to add new members.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist (although I
> > am an engineer) to figure out that with those two things are the death of
> > CORSA.  You can change the Communique to bi-monthly, increase advertising
> > rates, etc but wiithout addressing those two 
> things all you will be doing is
> > putting CORSA on a respirator.
> >
> > Personally I have no confidence in the BoD having the insight to do
> > anything positive for CORSA - haven't in the 20 years I have been in CORSA
> > and to be real honest, if CORSA folds so be it - I can enjoy my Corvairs
> > without CORSA.
> >
> > Robby
> >
> >   On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:41 PM, The Reinharts <jtreinhart at omnitelcom.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> All, Gary asked the question, I will try and answer. What this survey
> >> means
> >> to me is: I will be able to stay in contact with you, the members of the
> >> Corvair family, no matter what happens in the future to the printed
> >> Communique. If you are looking for an ominous prediction, here it is, No
> >> matter what we do, in my honest opinion, the printed Communique will have
> >> to
> >> become a bi-monthly or quarterly issue within two years, to save CORSA
> >> money
> >> and keep the club solvent. I then want to use the website to fill in the
> >> gaps between the issues. That is why this survey is so important to me. In
> >> my opinion we could end up completely relying on the web within 10 years.
> >> As
> >> I said yesterday I will explain it all and outline my plan for the future
> >> in
> >> a document and present it to the board and you in the following weeks. You
> >> can then register your opinion and help us decide what you want for the
> >> future of CORSA. In the meantime know that the BoD is working on every
> >> angle
> >> to increase membership and income.  Thanks for your comments and concerns.
> >> I
> >> will keep you posted.
> >>
> >> Jamie Reinhart
> >> CORSA Central Director
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gary Moore" <tdrinkr at yahoo.com>
> >> To: "Executive SecretaryHarry Jensen" <corsa at corvair.org>
> >> Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 04:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: <VV> CORSA Members on the Internet
> >>
> >>
> >> > Maybe I should have brought this up earlier. Do we need an accurate
> >> count?
> >> > Besides "it would be nice to know", what reason do we need to know the
> >> > information? Is this information that is missing from the CORSA
> >> membership
> >> > database? Gary Moore
> >> > The Internet, a magnificent new technology combining the credibility of
> >> > anonymous hearsay with the excitement of typing. ­Jon Stewart
> >> >
> >> > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Harry Jensen, Executive Secretary <
> >> corsa at corvair.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Harry Jensen, Executive Secretary <corsa at corvair.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: <VV> CORSA Members on the Internet
> >> > To: "Gary Moore" <tdrinkr at yahoo.com>
> >> > Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org, airvair at earthlink.net
> >> > Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:49 PM
> >> >
> >> > Hi--
> >> >
> >> > Well, what about the folks who are not members of chapters? How do they
> >> > get counted?
> >> >
> >> > --H
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 3/9/2010 11:02 AM, Gary Moore wrote:
> >> >> Agreed, there are flaws in any survey, but still the survey taken from
> >> >> club rosters by club officials would be much more accurate then relying
> >> >> on each person to answer a survey. Our club has 52 memberships, single
> >> >> and family, 4 do not list an email address and two have non-working
> >> email
> >> >> addresses. All are CORSA members. That puts the percentage at 88%. Is
> >> >> this typical? Maybe not, but it is probably pretty close. Gary Moore
> >> >
> >> > -- |--------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > | Harry Jensen mailto:corsa at corvair.org
> >> > | CORSA Executive Secretary
> >> > |
> >> > | Corvair Society of America (CORSA)
> >> > | P.O. Box 607, Lemont, IL 60439, 630.257.6530 fax 630.257.5540
> >> > | http://www.corvair.org
> >> > |--------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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