<VV> Just got the 28,000 mile Corsa damage - proving it

[chaz at properproper.com]

All of the "towed/shipped backward" theories seem not to explain the
damage to the lock pin on the lid.

I can't see a wind speed sufficient to do that, hence someone/somethng
pried/ripped the lid open, breaking the pin.

"it was that way when you brought it here" is the mantra of all
repairmen of all ilk.

I had a windshield replaced, with all those screws and caps around the
edge on a non-Corvair, and I made a point that they were all there, and
that "they should be there when I pick it up." 

Well, when I picked it up, of course half of them were missing, and he
said, without skipping a beat, "It was that way when you ... " and then
remembered our conversation and went to look for the parts, which he
found under the car.

Sort of reminds me of the scorpion and frog : "It what we do" rings a
bell here, so, you need proof that it was NOT "that way when you brought
it here." 

Wind just doesn't seem to be the cause of the damage IMHO, so wht did ?

Charlie


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: <VV> Just got the 28, 000 mile Corsa dropped off - good
> news/bad news.
> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:05 am
> To: "Tom Berg" <thesuperscribe at yahoo.com>, "Vairtec Corporation"
> <Vairtec at optonline.net>, <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> 
> 
> Well, if it was caused by the wind of motion pushing up a not fully latched 
> (sticky latch?) deck lid, I can see where the carrier could make a case for 
> mechanical failure of the latch.
> Later, JR
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Berg" <thesuperscribe at yahoo.com>
> To: "Vairtec Corporation" <Vairtec at optonline.net>; 
> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:33 AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Just got the 28,000 mile Corsa dropped off - good news/bad 
> news.
> 
> 
> The damage you describe is not "mechanical failure," but body damage.
> 
> Did you specify that the car was to be hauled in a closed van, or did you 
> leave
> closed vs. open to the carrier?
> 
> 
> --Tom in Ohio
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Vairtec Corporation <Vairtec at optonline.net>
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:27:50 AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Just got the 28, 000 mile Corsa dropped off - good 
> news/bad
> news.
> 
> On 4/20/2011 11:29 PM, psergeant wrote:
> 
> > Somehow, the deck lid was opened quite violently. So violently that it the
> >pivot pin on the lid support at the lid end was ripped out of the hole and 
> >is
> >gone. The lid was pushed forward (open) so hard that the front edge of the 
> >deck
> >lid dented the air grill and bent the hinge supports such that the lid 
> >doesn't
> >close properly. (it is now very tight up against the air grill). I have had
> >initial conversations with the shipping broker and he said "they cannot be
> >responsible for mechanical failure of my car". I am going to continue to 
> >pursue
> >the shipper/broker. Anyone have comments/thoughts on what the liability is 
> >to
> >the shipper(?)
> 
> My WAG is that the car was shipped on an open carrier, rear-end first,
> and that the deck lid was not latched. LM latches (and some EM too)
> have been known to stick in the unlatched position when old and
> disused. Anyway, the wind caught it, flipping it open with the force
> you describe.
> 
> As others have noted, without some way to demonstrate that the car was
> undamaged prior to shipping...
> 
> --Bob Marlow
> 
> 
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