<VV> Diesel Oil in Corvair

Mark Durham 62vair at gmail.com
Thu Mar 10 22:30:35 EST 2011


The short answer is no, meaning there do not seem to be any problems.
The Diesel oils just have more ashless dispersants to keep the soot
down, but that just keeps your engine cleaner inside.
I'm not a Chemist, but Richard Widman's oil article says the CI-4 oils
are fine. Good enough for me. He knows oils. Mark Durham

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:30 PM, J R Read <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Mark - and thank you.
>
> I guess I was not clear enough on the original question since it looks as if
> only Bryan understood what I was asking.  I've been using synthetic oil
> (after about 1500 miles on rebuilds) - Mobil 1 to be specific - in all
> vehicles for 20+ years now.
>
> What I was trying to get at was the ZDP levels in various Mobil 1 products.
> The 15w50 is 1200ppmPhosphorus and 1300ppm Zinc and is recommended for flat
> tappet applications.  The "Turbo Diesel Truck" version is 1100ppm
> Phosphorous and 1200ppm Zinc.  This is the one I have been using but have
> recently found it hard to find.
>
> This caused me to re-think about whether or not I should even be using an
> oil indicated for diesel engines at all.  The viscosity level of the
> "diesel" version is closer to the 10w30 I would like to be using than the
> 15w50, so that is another consideration.
>
> So, my question is...  are there harmful effects to a gas engine when using
> "diesel" oil?
>
> Later, JR
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Durham" <62vair at gmail.com>
> To: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: "VirtualVairs AA" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Diesel Oil in Corvair
>
>
> JR, some older synthetics did cause seal problems, but that was back
> in the 90's. I've read reports, on the Amsoil site and several off the
> internet, where the full synthetic oil in New York City cabs was run
> over 300K miles on gasoline engines without an overhaul, and without
> changing the oil. They just changed the bypass filter element every so
> often and topped it off then. They also did periodic oil sample tests
> to confirm the health of the engine during the test.
>
> When disassembled, the engines had less wear on the internal parts
> than a engine using petroleum oil for under 100K miles if I remember
> right, and was still clean inside. You could still see the cross hatch
> pattern in the cylinder barrels.
>
> So, if you want your Corvair engine to run smoother, seal up the rings
> better and run cooler, full synthetic oil in the proper viscosity
> range for the engine is the only way to go. Synthetic oils are in a
> class of their own.
>
> Here is the traditional disclaimer statement: Synthetic oils will not
> fix a tired engine. But if you have good compression and good oil
> pressure, it should work for you. If you don't, a higher viscosity
> petroleum oil will do you for awhile.
> Mark Durham
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:37 PM, J R Read <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Synthetic!
>>
>> I've used it - for a couple of years.
>>
>> Now I wonder - is anyone aware of a DISadvantage?
>>
>> Later, JR
>>
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