<VV> PayPal "protects" buyers by taking it from the seller ! (a bit of Corvair)

[chaz at properproper.com]

Did PayPal agree to refund **definitely** when you prove you returned
the items ?

Returning the items ~ which are your only "evidence" ~ may mean you are
out the money PLUS the items !

This happened in reverse when I sold a Corvair promo and the guy claimed
the package and model were damaged.

So, I said to go to the carrier, since they damaged it.

He then said the box was empty, and then claimed it wasn't what he
thought.

PayPal tried to take the money (that's how PayPal "guarantees" purchases
made by buyers : the just "take" it from the seller, without question,
and make the seller fight !)

That's also why PayPal REQUIRES sellers to insure packages, so that
PayPal can take youR money and you chase the insurer (good luck with
that !)

Charlie



> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: <VV> SCAM (no corvair)
> From: Ramon Rodriguez III <corvairgrymm at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, March 26, 2011 8:50 pm
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> 
> 
> A couple years ago I was selling a laptop on ebay and had one of these
> people try to scam me.  They sent a message that "appeared" to have come
> from ebay with a link to paypal (the email said ebay.com in the from line).
> The link to paypal worked fine and showed that I had received payment....
> only it wasn't the real paypal site, it was a carbon copy at a different
> address.
> 
> Once i figured out what was going on I kept reassuring the scammer that the
> laptop was on the way =P  I dragged it out as long as I could and it was
> pretty hilarious to see the guy get more and more anxious over the next few
> weeks.
> 
> On a less happy note I purchased a set of collectibles on ebay from China
> thinking that PayPal would protect me.  When the items arrived they didn't
> look right and I investigated.  I confirmed the items I was sent were
> knockoffs and contacted paypal.  PayPal told me that I had to send the item
> back to the seller to get a refund, and the seller provided a return address
> in Australia where shipping totaled more than the value of the items.
> PayPal left me hanging.  Just for clarification the *real* items I was after
> were manufactured and widely distributed in China, so buying them from China
> wasn't a real warning sign.
> 
> 
> 
>  Originally posted by Doc:
> 
> > > You can either ignore the scammer or have some fun with  him.
> >
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