<VV> LM turbos and no lower shrouds

[shortle]

Interesting to catch up on all the stuff. I consider this to be the topic of myth. It reminds of those that claim to have driven their Corvair hundreds of thousands of miles without anything ever needing to be done to it. These are usually the same folks that either trailer their cars (they are afraid to drive them), show up in a more modern water pumper, or don't show up at all to the meets. In other words, pure bs. And by the way, I just got back yesterday from Palm Springs in my Rampside. Did almost exactly 2000 miles WITH lower shrouds on. I did have to add a quart of oil and I probably need some more. 
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301
"Happiness is owning (and driving) a Corvair"


-----Original Message-----
>From: "Eric S. Eberhard" <flash at vicsmba.com>
>Sent: Oct 24, 2011 3:35 PM
>To: jvhroberts at aol.com, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> LM turbos and no lower shrouds
>
>I really think that a stock engine with the stock cooling is more 
>than adequate.  In fact, I would bet money that a stock engine with 
>stock cooling runs COOLER than one with the shrouds removed.  And I 
>dare you to drive spiritedly and get that lower part really hot and 
>then splash through some cold water.  And, I really like my heater in 
>the winter.
>
>You don't get much worse (for straining the cooling system) than the 
>spirited driving in AZ where 105 is common, 120 happens .... I never 
>had cooling problems even on steep grades.  I drove my little Spyder 
>30k miles and it never complained.  I've gone over 100 mph in that 
>car when it was over 100.  My coupe has A/C and PG and I can drive it 
>up a 6% grade with A/C on (which blows ice BTW stock except Sanden 
>compressor) at 75 (my engine is tweaked a little, it is a 110 instead 
>of 102) when it is 105 out, no problems.  In fact in all of my life 
>of having Corvairs (including 2 LM turbos and 1 EM turbo) and always 
>with stock shrouds, bellows, doors, and very importantly the sealing 
>of the engine compartment -- I have never had a Corvair 
>overheat.  Not even after losing a belt (STOP fast!).  In fact, if 
>anything I'd complain that it warms up too slow on cold days ... 
>seems to take forever even with the doors closed and the summer 
>plates off.  And I am not in-experienced -- I've had them 35 years, 
>10 more years if count the ones I worked on with my grandpa, and I 
>have owned as many as 10 at a time, never zero, and currently 
>2.  Last time I checked I have had more than 30 Corvairs.  I actually 
>do know what I am talking about.  So I will simply have to agree to disagree.
>
>E
>
>At 03:30 AM 10/23/2011, jvhroberts at aol.com wrote:
>>Um, the stock system is not all that and a bag o' chips. Sorry. For 
>>those of us who have turbo cars, etc., the cooling is utterly 
>>inadequate. Removing the shrouds produces a noticeable drop in CHT 
>>and oil temperature.
>>Even on a non turbo car, if driven spiritedly, the cooling system 
>>runs out of breath.
>>
>>So, there is, in fact a better system out there. GM simply failed to 
>>install it!!
>>
>>John Roberts
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Eric S. Eberhard <flash at vicsmba.com>
>>To: virtualvairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>Sent: Sun, Oct 23, 2011 2:30 am
>>Subject: <VV> LM turbos and no lower shrouds
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I am always puzzled by this discussion which comes up every so
>>often.  The car was designed well from the factory.  If you have
>>everything correct -- all the shrouds as well as seals and so forth,
>>there is no better system.  I am in AZ, totally bone-stock, at
>>altitude (3500-8000 feet), summer temps of 110 ... and I NEVER have
>>even gotten remotely close to overheating.  Our speed limit is 75 and
>>I can go up a 6% grade at 80, no over heating.  From my 3500 to 7500
>>feet happens in 6 miles, no overheat even at 80.
>>
>>
>
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