<VV> Fwd: [SCG] Corvair Seatbelt information 1960-1969 - Long

Ian Harding harding.ian at gmail.com
Fri Nov 16 14:53:50 EST 2012


I see a blank post.

> Please check out the article via this link and tell me what you think.

http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,125818,125818#msg-125818


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:38 AM, <MSYVairs at aol.com> wrote:

> This it?
>
> Link should take you to info!
>
> Bill "Swamp-Rat"Hadley
> Prez - New Orleans Corvairs
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
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> Sent: 3/11/2008 4:48:52 P.M. Central Standard  Time
> Subj: [SCG] Corvair Seatbelt information 1960-1969 - Long
>
>
> I have been working on an article to wrap together a bunch  of different
> sources of seatbelt info.
>
> I would like everyone's  assistance in correcting errors and/or adding
> additional detail.
>
> I  have posted the article on Corvair Center Forum so I can have pictures
> with  the information.
>
> Please check out the article via this link and tell me  what you  think.
>
> http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,125818,125818#msg-125818
>
> There are several pictures I still need that if anyone can send an  image
> of
> to me I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> I still need an image  of an actual 1960 GM accessory belt.
>
> I need an image of the 1964  Standard belt offering, described as a plain
> black plastic lift to release  buckle.  It was standard on all 64's around
> Jan of 64 so there should  be plenty out there but all I ever see are the
> black 65-66 style in late  64's...
>
> I need an image of the 1967 standard buckle with the Fisher  emblem instead
> of the later 67 GM mark of excellence emblem.
>
> Rick  Loving
>
>
>
> Here is a copy of the text of the article, without the  pictures...
>
> This article is broke down from my observations, personal  deductions,
> referenced by Larry Claypool's Stock Is. article on seat  belt
> identification, indirect help from Dave Newell, Kent Sullivan, Mark
> Corbin's
> Standard features and options spreadsheet, and Body tag info from  various
> websites on the Internet, scanning many years worth of VV posts,  and
> searching Ebay ad's for all GM model seatbelts, etc.
>
> I do not  have any intentions of publishing it; this is for general
> reference
> only,  please only use the information as a guideline only.  I am in no
>  way
> standing behind any of this data as fact, as I hope it is an  ongoing
> development with regular updates to continue to correct errors and  add
> detail.
>
> All Corvair seat belts from at least 1960-1969 were  manufactured for GM by
> Irving Air Chute Company.  Most likely all but  specifically stated in
> installation instructions for the 62-69 belts  recommended using the outer
> belt coupled with the inner belt located behind  the adjacent seat.  This
> setup has the two inner belts crossed with  both sets are used.
>
> It would seem that many belts crossed over into  previous years and or
> crossed over into following years as mid year  offerings or changes to
> accommodate safety requirements.
>
> 1960 -  Special order dealer installed accessory with only one color
>  choice
> available to match all interiors.  Chrome lift to release  buckle with gray
> webbing and adjustable floor mounts.  This seatbelt  could be ordered for
> front and rear seat of cars or truck  seats.
>
> 1961 - Special order dealer installed  accessory.  Plain polished alum lift
> to release buckle with black  webbing and adjustable floor mounts.  Could
> be
> ordered for front and  rear of cars or trucks.  A short boot was provided
> to
> cover the  mounting hardware for front seat car applications.
>
> 1962 early -  (Factory Optional Accessory) FOA 148 Seat belt equipment for
> front seat  applications, either drivers only or both driver and passenger.
> It was  similar to the 60-61 buckle. It had a plain polished lift to
> release
> buckle  but with black webbing and a mounting system that included eye
> bolts
> to  mount in the now provided factory mounting points.  A white vinyl  boot
> was attached to cover up the hardware.   This could be  ordered as a
> factory
> installed option or a dealer install.
>
> A  different belt offering was a Special order dealer installed accessory
> to
> be used on trucks and rear seat applications as the mounting hardware  was
> adjustable and designed to be attached to the body and retained with  a
> reinforcement plate.   It was the same style as the 1961 belt  except the
> buckle face and webbing were both black.
>
> Late 1962-1963  (Regular Production Option) RPO A37 Seat belt equipment for
> front seat  applications.  Polished alum lift to release buckle 1/2 dollar
> size  blue Chevrolet logo emblem and blue printed Custom Feature Accessory
> text  on a white background, webbing was color coded or contrasted to
> interior  color.  A matching colored, or white contrasting vinyl boot was
> also  provide to cover up the eyebolt and attaching hardware as well as
> support  the webbing as it came up along side the seat.  The colors
> available
> were black, blue, red, white with red boot, white with aqua boot,  fawn,
> green, aqua, and saddle. The car rears and truck were the same as the  63
> buckle with color coded webbing but had an adjustable length mounting
>  plate
> like the rear/truck option for 62 and did not come with the vinyl  cover.
>
> 1964 - Early, RPO A37 Seat belt equipment for front seat  applications,
> this
> option used the newly designed color coded buckles and  mounting hardware
> that included a rough textured, color coded, painted  buckle with a small
> silver embossed bowtie.  The colors available were  black, blue, red, white
> with red boot, white with aqua boot, fawn, green,  aqua, and saddle.  The
> mounting style changed from the eyebolt and  aircraft fastener design used
> in
> 62-63 to a simple shoulder bolt and short  decorative vinyl cover that just
> covered the bracket and bolt at the floor  level.  Retractors were not
> offer
> as part of the option, but could be  added by the dealer for additional
> cost.
>
>
> 1964 - Mid RPO A20,  Several months into production of the 1964's Chevrolet
> announced  availability of RPO A20, a lower-cost belt than what was used
> for
> RPO A37.  It was available in black, blue, red, and fawn with no boots on
> the
> ends.  This belt had a plain plastic buckle with no emblem.  RPO A20 was
> very
> short lived as and was discontinued effective January 1st as these  belts
> became a standard feature, removing the need for the  RPO.
>
> *****
> I need a picture of this style seat belt, if this was  standard there
> should
> be a lot of these around!!!!  I think the  description of a plain black
> plastic buckle is inaccurate (or another  change happened before the end of
> production) as I see mainly the 65-66  style black plastic lift to release
> buckles (with Fisher Emblem) in a lot  of 64's, too many just to be owner
> installed.
> *****
>
> 1964 - RPO  A49 Deluxe Front belts with retractors - The previously offered
> buckle and  belt with RPO A37 now became RPO A49, which  was the rough
> textured,  color coded, painted buckle with a small silver embossed bowtie.
> 9  different color combos were offered, most color keyed to seats but  also
> with contrasting red against white interior with Red dash and red  carpet.
>
> 1964 RPO A47 Deluxe rear belts (only available ordered  with RPOA49) - Same
> as fronts but with adjustable length rear mounting  plates.
>
> 1964 RPO A62 Seat belt deletion - this RPO was a mid year  offering as
> front
> seat belts became a standard option as of Jan 1964 as  part of a mid-year
> change, since they were not yet required by law they  were optional and
> could
> be removed to reduce purchase cost of  car.
>
> 1965 Standard belt - Front seatbelts were a standard  offering.  The 65
> buckle was a plastic lift to release buckle with a  rectangular black &
> silver embossed insert with a Fisher Carriage  emblem.  Again the buckle
> and
> webbing were color coded to the  interior.  There was no boot to cover the
> mounting bolt or attaching  plate where it bolted to the factory mounting
> point.
>
> 1965 RPO A64  Custom rear seat belts, matches the color coded plastic lift
> to
> release  standard custom seatbelt buckle.
>
> 1965 RPO A49 Custom Deluxe Front belts  with retractors - Newly designed
> buckles and mounting hardware.    The buckles were polished chrome, where
> the
> back half of the buckle lifted  to release the catch.  The face of the
> buckle
> had a large rectangular  reddish colored Fisher Carriage Logo insert.  The
> webbing and  protective vinyl boot was color coded to the interior and belt
> retractors  were provided for the outboard portion of the belt.
>
> 1965 RPO A47 (only  available ordered with A49) Custom Deluxe rear belts -
> Same as chrome  custom deluxe fronts but with adjustable length rear
> mounting
> plates and no  vinyl boots.
>
> 1965 RPO A62 Seat belt deletion - Standard front belts  were a standard
> option but they were not required could be removed to  reduce purchase cost
> of car.  This option was removed as a mid year  removal when the federal
> government mandated front belts effective January  1965.
>
> Since the Corvair was considers a 6 passenger vehicle when  equipped with
> bench seats, a front center belt was also included on all  bench seat
> optioned cars all the way though the end of 1969.  Only the  drivers and
> passenger seat required belts when bucket seats were installed.
>
> 1966 Standard belts - Front and rear seatbelts were now a standard
> offering.
> The standard 1966 buckle was the same as 1965, a plastic lift to  release
> buckle with a rectangular black & silver embossed insert with a  Fisher
> Carriage emblem.  Again the buckle and webbing were color coded  to the
> interior.  There was no boot to cover the mounting bolt or  attaching plate
> where it bolted to the factory mounting points.  This  was the last lift to
> release buckle style offered.
>
> 1966 RPO A39  Custom Deluxe Front and rear belts - Newly designed buckles
> and
> mounting  hardware.   The buckles were brushed chrome. The face of the
> buckle
> had black push button release with a gold fisher Carriage logo. The
>  webbing
> and protective boot was color coded to the interior and belt  retractors
> were
> provided for the outboard portion of the belt.
>
> 1966  RPO A85 Custom Deluxe shoulder belts (Factory installed only and only
> with  RPO A39, (available after around Feb or March 1966)  In  conjunction
> with the shoulder belt option, Fisher Body began welding the  mounting nuts
> for shoulder belts in all coupes and sedans.  If you car  was made around
> when this option became available, your car has the mounts  under the
> headliner whether or not you currently have shoulder belts  installed in
> your
> car.
>
> Starting in 1967 Fisher body began welding in  nuts for rear seatbelt
> mounting as  the federal government now  required rear belts as well as
> front
> belts in all vehicles.
>
> 1967-69  Standard "Custom" seatbelts - Front and rear seatbelts were now a
> standard  offering. Again the buckle and webbing were color coded to  the
> interior.   There were two styles of 1967 bucked offered, the  initial
> buckle
> design had a textured plastic face with a plastic push  button release that
> had a gold fisher coach cast into it.  The second  style was a mid year
> change over and this design carried all the way  through 1969.  This new
> buckle was also a color coded plastic buckle  with a push to release button
> in the middle.  The logo on the push to  release button was changed from
> the
> Fisher Carriage to the GM Mark of  Excellence logo.  The GM buckle was used
> through out 1969.
>
> **** I need a better picture of the 67, Fisher emblem  buckle!!!!
>
> 1967 RPO A68 Custom center rear seat belt, optional center  rear belt for 5
> passenger operation, used the same plastic buckle as the  standard front
> buckle.
>
> 1967 RPO AS1 Custom Front shoulder belts to  go with the standard front
> belt
> offering of color coded plastic  buckle.  Shoulder belts were previously
> only
> offered with the Custom  Deluxe belts in 1966.
>
> 1967 RPO A39 Custom Deluxe Front and rear belts -  Newly designed buckles
> and
> mounting hardware was offered for the Custom  deluxe buckle for 1967.  The
> belt webbing was still color coded to the  interior but the buckle was
> changed to satin chrome face with a push button  release that carried the
> GM
> mark of Excellence logo.  Starting in Jan  1967 rear belts were federally
> mandated, so the rear seat arrangement now  included standard center
> seatbelt.  So now 5 belts were mandated on  cars with bucket seats and 6
> seatbelts on bench seat equipped  cars.
>
> 1967 RPO A85 Custom Deluxe shoulder belts (Factory installed only  and only
> with RPO A39)
>
> 1967 RPO AL5 -Custom Deluxe Center rear seat  belt (requires RPO A39)
>
> 1968 - No change for Standard Custom belt or  buckle design since 1967.
> Still using colored coded plastic, GM logo  inserted pushbutton release
> buckle and belts with outboard  retractors.
>
> 1968 RPO A39 Custom Deluxe Front and rear belts
>
> 1968  RPO A85 Custom Deluxe shoulder belts (Factory installed only and only
> with  RPO A39)
>
> 1968 RPO AK1 Custom Deluxe Front seat with shoulder belts and  custom
> deluxe
> Rear Seat belts
>
> 1968 Custom Front shoulder belts are  now standard on coupes and optional
> on
> convertibles, as well as center  belts for bench seat cars.  Effective Jan
> 68
> front shoulder belts  become required by federal mandate in all models.
>
> 1968 RPO AS4 Custom  Deluxe rear shoulder belts (requires RPO AK1)
>
> 1968 RPO AS5 Custom Rear  shoulder belts (requires RPO AS1 when ordered on
> a
> Convertible)
>
> 1969  - No change for Standard Custom belt or buckle design since 1967.
> Still  using colored coded plastic, GM logo inserted pushbutton release
> buckle and  belts with outboard retractors.
>
> 1969 RPO A39 Custom Deluxe Front and  rear belts
>
> 1969 RPO A85 Custom Deluxe shoulder belts (Factory installed  only and only
> with RPO A39)
>
> 1969 RPO AS4 Custom Deluxe rear shoulder  belts (requires RPO AK1)
>
> 1969 RPO AS5 Custom Rear shoulder belts  (requires RPO AS1 when ordered on
> a
> Convertible)
>
>
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