<VV> methanol vs. ethanol (Humour)

ScottyGrover at aol.com ScottyGrover at aol.com
Fri Oct 19 08:35:25 EDT 2012


In a containers behind the driver's seat--if you can stand the smell.
 
Scotty from Hollyweird
 
 
In a message dated 10/18/2012 10:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ronh at owt.com writes:

So where  do we put the natural gas in our Corvairs?
RonH

----- Original  Message ----- 
From: <FrankCB at aol.com>
To:  <patiomatt at aol.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Thursday,  October 18, 2012 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> methanol vs.  ethanol


> Well, since we don't have carbon dioxide, carbon   monoxide and hydrogen
> easily and readily available, the  vast  bulk of methanol is made today 
> starting
> with natural gas  (what  our friend Ulli calls "erd gas" or "earth gas").
> The  natural gas after  purification is reacted catalytically at high  
temp.
> with steam to form the  carbon oxides and hydrogen which  are then further
> processed to make the  methanol.  Many  years ago I worked for a company 
> that
> designed and   built these plants (among others) and even spent 3 months 
in
> Japan  (1962 if  memory serves me) on the construction and startup of one 
 
> of them.
>    Incidentally, this same process is used  to make our  commercial
> hydrogen.  Also in the 60s I started  up a hydrogen plant from  natural 
gas 
> in
> California  where the hydrogen was used to make rocket fuel.
>    Natural  gas is not only a great fuel, but also an  excellent feedstock
>  for all kinds of chemicals.  We now know we have enough  in our own  
> country
> to completely sever our dependence on fuels imported  at  great expense 
> from
> people who despise us.  All  we have to do is to convince  our obfuscatory
> leaders in  Washington to allow us to do so.
>    But that's another fight  which I hope is resolved  in a few weeks.
> Frank "chemical  engineer" Burkhard
> Boonton, NJ
>
>
> In a message  dated 10/18/2012 9:11:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> patiomatt at aol.com  writes:
>
> Since JR  explained the properties of  ETHANOL
>
>
> Here's Wikipedia's   description of  Methanol
>
>
> "Methanol, also known as methyl  alcohol,  wood alcohol, wood naphtha or
> wood spirits, is a  chemical with the formula  CH3OH (often abbreviated 
>  MeOH).
> Methanol acquired the name "wood alcohol"  because it was  once produced
> chiefly as a byproduct of the destructive   distillation of wood. Modern 
> methanol
> is produced in a  catalytic industrial  process directly from carbon
> monoxide,  carbon dioxide, and  hydrogen.
> Methanol is the simplest alcohol,  and is a light, volatile,  colorless,
> flammable liquid with a  distinctive odor very similar to, but  slightly 
> sweeter
>  than, ethanol (drinking alcohol).[4] At room temperature, it  is a  polar
> liquid, and is used as an antifreeze, solvent, fuel, and as  a  
denaturant 
> for
> ethanol. It is also used for producing  biodiesel via  transesterification
> reaction.
> Methanol is  produced naturally in the  anaerobic metabolism of many
> varieties  of bacteria, and is ubiquitous in small  amounts in the 
>  environment. As a
> result, there is a small fraction of methanol   vapor in the atmosphere.
> Over the course of several days, atmospheric  methanol  is oxidized with 
> the
> help of sunlight to  carbon dioxide and water.
> Methanol  burns in oxygen (including  open air), forming carbon dioxide 
and
>  water:"
>
>
>
>
>
> Matt Nall
>  Charleston,  Oregon
> http://tinyurl.com/The-Patio
>  http://tinyurl.com/Matts-Tech-Pages
>
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>
>
>
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