<VV> Membership.

Mon Mar 3 02:19:09 EST 2014

Interesting!  Who pays for the ties?

Oh, maybe we could issue a VISITOR badge (different color) with limited 
privileges?

I think you are really talking about a trial (at no charge) full membership 
for about 1/2 a year, correct?  Any idea what our past experience has been 
with similar experiments?  I don't either, but I think that I read earlier 
that something similar was tried in the past (Springfield?) with a 
non-renewal rate on those memberships pretty near 100%.

As your stock broker might tell you - past experience is not a reliable 
indicator of future experience.

I just broke my vow to myself to stay out of this discussion.  Since I'm not 
on "talk" and dp just issued a request to move the discussion there, I 
figured this was my only chance to get a word in edgewise.

Later, JR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mel Francis" <mfrancis at wi.rr.com>
To: "Paul Sergeant" <paulsgt at earthlink.net>
Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Membership.

> Since the problem of non-members attending a CORSA convention is a 
> problem,
> how about an alternate approach?
>
> Just as a restaurant that might require a tie and jacket to be worn by its
> customers and then supplies those items,
> rather than turn business away; how about at this year's convention, 
> having
> the entrance fee at the door include an introductory
> CORSA membership for that person, either until the end of the year, or 
> until
> the next convention. This would allow
> the new attendee to have full enjoyment of the club for a tryout period.
> They would have online access to the Communique,
> but would have to pay extra later, for a mailed Communique.
>
> Mel Francis
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Sergeant" <paulsgt at earthlink.net>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:03 PM
> Subject: <VV> Membership.
>
>
>> Interesting discussions here folks.
>> Thanks to Hank for giving me a heads-up that this was going on.  I read 
>> VV
>> somewhat occasionally.  For those of you who had a bad experience on the
>> CORSA BoD, I am sorry.  When I expressed interest in giving back to this
>> club (volunteering for the BOD) that has meant so much to me for many
>> years
>> (Member since 1975) I was warned by several folks, previous BoD members,
>> that it would be a horrible job with endless fighting and strong
>> personalities.   The BoD is made up of 12 people from very different
>> locations, backgrounds, etc.  That's a great thing.  We need that
>> diversity.
>> I will say that I've been on the BoD for coming up on 2-years now.  It 
>> has
>> been a good experience.  Virtually everyone I've come in contact with has
>> been respectful and interested in the future of CORSA.  Some quite
>> passionately I might add.  It is great to see that passion.     Some 
>> folks
>> (one or two) have even taken their valuable time to sit down and give me
>> their ideas on how to move this club forward.  I appreciate that too.  I
>> want you all to know that I don't have all the answers.  Nor does the
>> collective BoD.  This is a volunteer organization except for the company
>> we
>> pay to manage our affairs.   People, CORSA members are busy with their
>> lives, work, local CORSA chapters, working on their cars, families,
>> church,
>> government, etc...  I could go on and on.  CORSA has some outstanding
>> volunteers.  They run this group, they run the CORSA web site, they run
>> the
>> conventions, etc, etc...  I cannot thank them and all the others who
>> volunteer for this organization enough.  One of the problems with 
>> 'getting
>> things done' is that most of the time new initiatives require manpower.
>> If
>> this were a business (it's not) we could justify hiring more help based 
>> on
>> expected revenue.  We don't have that luxury unless you all want to chip
>> in
>> another $20, $50, $100 per year in dues for us to do that.  I'll admit, I
>> have concerns about CORSAs long-term viability.  We have to collectively
>> add
>> value to the CORSA experience or we won't attract new members.  We 
>> (CORSA)
>> are not the 'keeper of the keys' of Corvair knowledge anymore.  It exists
>> within CORSA, thank God, but it is also available to virtually anyone
>> trolling the web.  We have to embrace that fact and move on.  I just read
>> past President Jasons post.  I don't think our club is unique in 
>> requiring
>> membership to attend our national convention.  Other car clubs are the
>> same.
>> I don't think it's too much to ask for people to join if they want to
>> participate in the events.  Come on guys...annual  CORSA dues costs less
>> than a tank of gas in most of your daily driver vehicles.  If you are
>> interested in and/or passionate about this hobby than sign-up and pay 
>> your
>> dues.  If you don't like the way things are going, then you try to change
>> it.  If you don't like me as the leader, of your club, then vote me out.
>> I
>> am not perfect.  I've been around Corvairs since I was 7 or 8 years old.
>> I've owned one since before I could legally drive.  I'm 54 now.  If
>> nothing
>> else, the Corvair has been one constant in my life.  I wouldn't dream of
>> abandoning the organization that supports it.
>>
>> Thanks for listening.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Paul Sergeant
>> Central Division Director / President – CORSA
>> 65 Monza Convertible (110/PG)
>> 66 Corsa Coupe (140/4 – 28,000 orig. miles)
>> 61 Pontiac Tempest Safari Wagon
>>
>> CORSA Since 1975
>> Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, POCI, Little Indians.
>>
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