<VV> More lug nuts

[Hugo Miller]

I'm totally with you on greasing tapered joints. I always put a bit of 
grease on my finger and wipe it around the taper on ball joints etc. 
Helps them slide in further. Smae with every single thread on the 
vehicle. I can always tell when I have worked on a vehicle previously, 
because it will dis-assemble without the need for angle grinders, 
oxy-acetylene, hacksaws or chisels!

On 2020-04-01 02:02, FrankDuVal via VirtualVairs wrote:
> Good try, but I don't buy it.  Ha!
>
> Same could be said for EVERY fastener on the vehicle.
>
> It is amazing the number of people out west that argue for the dry
> method. I always tell them here in the rusty east I lubricate threads
> so I can remove them in the future. Wheel studs are just another
> thread on a vehicle.
>
> Now to extend this discussion, unrelated to Corvairs, AFAIK, "they"
> say to always install drums on tapered axles DRY, as lubricating them
> will cause damage. I still cannot wrap my head around this. I've been
> known to lube the taper shaft of a ball joint/tie rod end before
> installation around here!
>
> In true confessions, in 50 years of working on vehicles, I have had
> two loose wheels. Both times I never tightened the lug nuts. First
> time on a friends Mustang, I heard the click click of the wheel being
> loos, stopped and tighten the nuts. Second time was a customer's 
> Acura
> with $600 chrome wheels....... I test drove it around the block and
> the wheel went ahead of me..... and the car came to a sudden halt.
> Only doing 25 or so, around the Lee monument. Scary was watching the
> wheel roll along and so lucky it didn't hit anything, any person,
> nothing. Ran back two blocks to the shop and dragged a floor jack 
> back
> to put the spare on, car still sitting on middle of road next to Lee
> monument....  Lower ball joint had punched a hole in the $600 
> rim.....
> rest of car was AOK!
>
> Never left another wheel loose.
>
> Frank DuVal
>
> On 3/31/2020 8:04 PM, Jim Becker via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> How about: After the wheel is installed the lubricant will attract 
>> dust and any other abrasive contaminant the vehicle is exposed to.  
>> Unless completely cleaned off, the abrasives will cause thread damage 
>> on future removal/installation.  The presence of the contaminants and 
>> the thread damage will make proper tightening of the fasteners 
>> increasingly improbable.
>>
>> Jim Becker
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Hugo Miller via VirtualVairs
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:38 PM
>> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re:  More lug nuts
>>
>> I don't think there can be an argument for fitting them dry.
>>
>> On 2020-03-31 19:05, Jay Maechtlen via VirtualVairs wrote:
>>> There was quite a discussion of this on one of the Eng-tips forums 
>>> a
>>> while back.
>>> Strong opinions were expressed for and against lubrication.
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