<VV> VirtualVairs Digest, Vol 182, Issue 61

Tue Mar 31 20:01:33 EDT 2020

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>    1. Re: More lug nuts (Jay Maechtlen)
>    2. Re: More lug nuts (Hugo Miller)
>    3. Corona Virus (Arlette Pat & Carl Kelsen)
>    4. Re: Attention CORSA Members! Registration is now OPEN for the
>       2020 CORSA Convention (corvair at frontiernet.net)
>    5. Re: Corona Virus (Hugo Miller)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:05:29 -0700
> From: Jay Maechtlen <jaysplace at laserpubs.com>
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: <VV> More lug nuts
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> There was quite a discussion of this on one of the Eng-tips forums a
> while back.
> Strong opinions were expressed for and against lubrication.
> I basically follow Bryan's method, except I may use anti-seize on the
> seats also for steel wheels.
> Years ago on our Aerostar I had an issue with the seats and matching
> surfaces on the wheels getting torn up. The steel wheels and nuts were
> galling and wearing badly, There was also damage to the threads.
> I replaced the worst of the lug nuts and cleaned the studs and wheel lug
> seats as well as I could.
> Then used anti-seize on everything, but made sure to go around several
> times when tightening. It held up fine until the vehicle was retired
> some years later.
>
>
> On 3/31/2020 8:02 AM, Bryan Blackwell via VirtualVairs wrote:
> > Here at Skiblack Auto Spa, wheel lugs are cleaned so the lug nuts spin
> on by hand, then given a coat of anti-seize (threads only).  Run them down
> with the gun set on the softest setting to snug, then middle setting (about
> 40 lb-ft).  From there it's two passes by hand to the middle of the torque
> range.  It takes a little extra time, but wheels stay on.  At least when I
> don't forget altogether! =:-O
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> >> On Mar 30, 2020, at 11:10 PM, Joel McGregor via VirtualVairs <
> virtualvairs at corvair.org <mailto:virtualvairs at corvair.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> The common (wrong) rule of thumb here is to put them on dry also.
> People claim they fall off if you lube them.  Of course that is wrong
> thinking.
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> --
> Jay Maechtlen
> SoCal
> '61 2-dr modified w/fiberglass skin,
> transverse 3.8 Buick V6 TH440T4 trans
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:38:59 +0000
> From: Hugo Miller <hugo at aruncoaches.co.uk>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> More lug nuts
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> I don't think there can be an argument for fitting them dry.
>
> On 2020-03-31 19:05, Jay Maechtlen via VirtualVairs wrote:
> > There was quite a discussion of this on one of the Eng-tips forums a
> > while back.
> > Strong opinions were expressed for and against lubrication.
> > I basically follow Bryan's method, except I may use anti-seize on the
> > seats also for steel wheels.
> > Years ago on our Aerostar I had an issue with the seats and matching
> > surfaces on the wheels getting torn up. The steel wheels and nuts
> > were
> > galling and wearing badly, There was also damage to the threads.
> > I replaced the worst of the lug nuts and cleaned the studs and wheel
> > lug seats as well as I could.
> > Then used anti-seize on everything, but made sure to go around
> > several times when tightening. It held up fine until the vehicle was
> > retired some years later.
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/2020 8:02 AM, Bryan Blackwell via VirtualVairs wrote:
> >> Here at Skiblack Auto Spa, wheel lugs are cleaned so the lug nuts
> >> spin on by hand, then given a coat of anti-seize (threads only).  Run
> >> them down with the gun set on the softest setting to snug, then middle
> >> setting (about 40 lb-ft).  From there it's two passes by hand to the
> >> middle of the torque range.  It takes a little extra time, but wheels
> >> stay on.  At least when I don't forget altogether! =:-O
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >>
> >>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 11:10 PM, Joel McGregor via VirtualVairs
> >>> <virtualvairs at corvair.org <mailto:virtualvairs at corvair.org>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The common (wrong) rule of thumb here is to put them on dry also.
> >>> People claim they fall off if you lube them.  Of course that is wrong
> >>> thinking.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:56:06 +0000
> From: Arlette Pat & Carl Kelsen <arlettecarl at hotmail.com>
> To: Virtualvairs Virtualvairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: <VV> Corona Virus
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> G?day everyone,
> Today, with some regret, I cancelled our Qantas International air tickets
> for flights which we have paid for, and which would have taken my wife and
> I from Australia to the USA in June / July this year.
>
> During this trip we would have of course attended this years Corsa
> Convention in San Diego and very much looked forward to catching up with
> fellow Corvair owners. Later today, I will cancel my San Diego hotel
> booking.
>
> Australia?s Qantas Airways will over the next two days operate its final
> scheduled flights to the USA and Canada. Qantas now considers the risk now
> far to great to continue operating scheduled flights to the USA.
>
> I like the rest of world watches with REAL concern, as the number of
> confirmed case of this virus continues to rise in the USA and we wonder why
> your President Donald Trump firstly refused to acknowledge how serious the
> spread of this virus is and why he constantly wants to think it?s under
> control.
>
> Many of us wonder how long it will be before this virus is ?controlled?.
> On the basis of what I have read, I think its likely to be at best 6 months
> and it could well be two years before there is any meaningful improvement.
>
> Australia, by world standards has only a few cases and while its to early
> to be certain, present indications suggest that we might be winning the
> battle with this virus. Our boarders are sealed. Qantas has cancelled its
> international services until May 31 and is expected to cancel all its
> international flights through to July 31.
>
> So, my wife and I will, for the first time in 3 years be spending winter
> home in Australia.
>
> I sincerely believe that this years San Diego Corsa Convention HAS to be
> cancelled TODAY. To even consider running this convention is at best
> ?foolish? but certainly dangerous!
>
> In my view best outcome would be to simply move all the good planning to
> 2021. If this was done, then my wife and I would immediately book Qantas
> flights for 2021 and start to plan around this.
>
> CORSA its time to ?PULL THE PLUG?.
>
> To my many valued American friends. PLEASE keep away from crowded places
> and keep safe as your country is sadly now the center of this worldwide
> virus
> Thinking of all you.
> Carl Kelsen
> RHD 1965 Monza convertible
> Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:42:04 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "corvair at frontiernet.net" <corvair at frontiernet.net>
> To: Allan Lacki <redbat01 at verizon.net>,  <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Attention CORSA Members! Registration is now OPEN
>         for the 2020 CORSA Convention
> Message-ID: <1223808842.38331.1585694524890 at mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> Thank you.
>
>
> There are two kinds of worries ? those you can do something about and
> those you can?t. ?Don?t spend any time on the latter. - Duke Ellington?
>
> On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 10:44 AM, Allan Lacki via VirtualVairs <
> virtualvairs at corvair.org> wrote:
>
>  Attention CORSA Members! Registration is now OPEN for the 2020 CORSA
> Convention in San Diego. Sign up for the concours, car show, autocross,
> economy run, rally, tech sessions, group meetings, family tours and much
> more.
>  Click on this link for complete information about this event, including
> hotel reservations and a mail-in registration form for the convention.
>  http://www.sandiegocorvair.com/2020-convention.html
>  Prefer to register online? Click on this link to register online.
>  https://www.corvair.org/index.php/member-log-in
>  (You'll need to log on with your CORSA username and password). Make your
> hotel reservations separately.
>  Articles about all of the convention activities are being published in
> the CORSA Communique magazine, so be sure to check 'em out! Notice to
> Non-Members:: You need to be a CORSA member to participate in convention
> activities. Did you say you're not a member? Well, here's your chance to
> join us. Click on this link to join CORSA.
>  https://www.corvair.org/index?/membership/join-or-renew-here
>  Corona Virus? Convention week is July 6th- 11th. We're hoping COVID-19
> will be a distant memory by then, but if we're forced to cancel this event
> due to the virus, we will announce it here and gladly refund your
> registration fees. You would need to cancel your hotel reservations
> separately. But at this time, we plan on the convention occurring, and we
> are working closely with the host hotel and the city of San Diego to keep
> up with the situation.
> Allan Lacki
> redbat01 at verizon.net
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:49:12 +0000
> From: Hugo Miller <hugo at aruncoaches.co.uk>
> To: Arlette Pat & Carl Kelsen <arlettecarl at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Corona Virus
> Message-ID: <19a50c770017517921d9ec3e68ab68de at aruncoaches.co.uk>
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> In England we are encouraged to panic, and practically the entire
> economy has been shut down. As usual these days, everybody is reacting
> with hysteria rather than reason. I prefer to look at the numbers; on
> the British government's own prediction, one person in a hundred will
> actually catch this thing, and one in three thousand head of population
> are actually going to die from it. And that is not a random mortality
> rate - it will be those whose health is already compromised who will
> die.
> You are three thousand times more likely to die of something other than
> Corona-virus.
> In order to propagate itself, this glorified flu bug has to find its
> way from the lungs of an infected person or a carrier into the lungs of
> its next victim. That is not a particularly easy task for the virus, and
> with some elementary precautions we can make it damn near impossible.
> My bigger concern is what happens next time? We seem to have seen an
> unusually large number of nasty bugs in the last few years, and with
> increased global travel these things spread much further and faster than
> they would have done not so many years ago. This virus will eventually
> disappear. But what happens if it comes back, as the Black Death did,
> several times? Or if something similar comes along? We can't keep
> shutting the entire economy down every time. I wouldn't be surprised if
> the death toll from suicide, together with widespread business collapses
> and bankruptcies, divorces etc, turns out to be worse than the disease
> these measures are supposed to save us from.
>
> On 2020-03-31 21:56, Arlette Pat & Carl Kelsen via VirtualVairs wrote:
> > G?day everyone,
> > Today, with some regret, I cancelled our Qantas International air
> > tickets for flights which we have paid for, and which would have
> > taken
> > my wife and I from Australia to the USA in June / July this year.
> >
> > During this trip we would have of course attended this years Corsa
> > Convention in San Diego and very much looked forward to catching up
> > with fellow Corvair owners. Later today, I will cancel my San Diego
> > hotel booking.
> >
> > Australia?s Qantas Airways will over the next two days operate its
> > final scheduled flights to the USA and Canada. Qantas now considers
> > the risk now far to great to continue operating scheduled flights to
> > the USA.
> >
> > I like the rest of world watches with REAL concern, as the number of
> > confirmed case of this virus continues to rise in the USA and we
> > wonder why your President Donald Trump firstly refused to acknowledge
> > how serious the spread of this virus is and why he constantly wants
> > to
> > think it?s under control.
> >
> > Many of us wonder how long it will be before this virus is
> > ?controlled?. On the basis of what I have read, I think its likely to
> > be at best 6 months and it could well be two years before there is
> > any
> > meaningful improvement.
> >
> > Australia, by world standards has only a few cases and while its to
> > early to be certain, present indications suggest that we might be
> > winning the battle with this virus. Our boarders are sealed. Qantas
> > has cancelled its international services until May 31 and is expected
> > to cancel all its international flights through to July 31.
> >
> > So, my wife and I will, for the first time in 3 years be spending
> > winter home in Australia.
> >
> > I sincerely believe that this years San Diego Corsa Convention HAS to
> > be cancelled TODAY. To even consider running this convention is at
> > best ?foolish? but certainly dangerous!
> >
> > In my view best outcome would be to simply move all the good planning
> > to 2021. If this was done, then my wife and I would immediately book
> > Qantas flights for 2021 and start to plan around this.
> >
> > CORSA its time to ?PULL THE PLUG?.
> >
> > To my many valued American friends. PLEASE keep away from crowded
> > places and keep safe as your country is sadly now the center of this
> > worldwide virus
> > Thinking of all you.
> > Carl Kelsen
> > RHD 1965 Monza convertible
> > Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
> >  _______________________________________________
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