<VV> GM - no specific Vair

Kenneth E Pepke kenpepke at juno.com
Thu Jan 8 03:31:14 EST 2009


Heavier for strength ... to meet government standards, more
costly to build because of the high strength steel used for the
very same reason.
Ken P

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:23:41 -0500 Louis Armer <carmerjr at mindspring.com>
writes:
> A modern classic example of this attitude is 
> glaringly shown in the Pontiac Solstice and the 
> Saturn sister model. Late to market, overpriced 
> and 400 lbs heavier than the foreign 
> competition.........................WHY ????
> Chuck Armer
> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> At 05:59 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:
> > >.  Do you *need* 4-valves-per to make a 
> > powerful, peppy >engine?  > No, but you *need* 
> > more than 2 valves per cylinder to make a 
> > powerful, peppy, and _economical_ engine. It 
> > improves volumetric efficiency. >Consider the 
> > the LS6 V8 , which puts out more power than 
> > the >LT5 did with the same displacement, 16 
> > fewer valves, and pushrods. >  > Consider my 
> > (former) BMW M3  which  would outperform (or at 
> > least perform with) with the Corvette despite 
> > having little more than half the displacement 
> > and yet turn in 30mph highway  and carry 5 
> > people to boot.... This isn't to say that 
> > modern GM V8's aren't impressive (they 
> > absolutely are)... just that there are other 
> > ways to arrive at similar performance levels 
> > but with greater efficiencies and utilizing 
> > technologies that can "filter down" to more 
> > standard economy cars... something our domestic 
> > automakers have never done well. Our cars 
> > typically weigh more and get worse mileage than 
> > their imported competitors... >Perhaps the 
> > buyers, erm, "wouldn’t notice the 
> > difference."  So why >spend the $62 -- just so 
> > you can put "16-valve" on the valve 
> > cover? > >  > Many buyers wouldn't be likely to 
> > notice.... the rest are already buying imports... Bill
> 
> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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