<VV> Restoration - DIY is $atisfying <-- one for Guinness !!!!!

[shortle]

Would you pay him more if it took longer? Like for the broken exhaust stud that showed up during reassembly (it is an "old" car, right)? Or how about the previous joe that used an excessive amount of gasket glue that now took 3 times as long to remove? Or the training and schooling he may have to attend just to try to keep up with the changes in the industry? And the equipment that is continually being required and continually changing? Maybe you are in the wrong business. It would probably be easier to be a medical doctor today than being in the automotive business. Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado
My education is ongoing


-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>Sent: Aug 8, 2010 3:15 PM
>To: J R Read_HML <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>, virtualvairs at corvair.org, Tony Underwood <tony.underwood at cox.net>
>Subject: Re: <VV> Restoration - DIY is $atisfying <-- one for Guinness !!!!!
>
>You should record that anomaly for Guinness (no, not the beer, but maybe 
>that too) !
>
>I recently got estimates for a head gasket (non-Corvair) from $800 to $1500
>
>The guy who wanted $1500 said he'd rather charge too much than nickel and
>dime me later.
>
>I asked him if he would charge less if it took less time, and he looked at
>me like I was nuts, which of course I'd have to be to expect him to lower
>the price after I agreed to his "logic" ?!?!?!?
>
>He actually thought that logic would work ?  Does it ?  Maybe I'm in the
>wrong business, since Barnum seems to have nailed it !
>
>To paraphrase Barnum "It's bad business to allow fools to keep their money"
>or more succinctly, "Fools are fair game" and Darwin was right !  (OK, that
>was Spencer but that's another story)
>
>Charlie
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>; "Tony
>Underwood" <tony.underwood at cox.net>
>Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:18 PM
>Subject: Re: <VV> Restoration - DIY is $atisfying
>
>
>> That one is sort of funny to me.
>>
>> I once took a Vair for 4 wheel alignment to Firestone.  Had made sure
>> everything turned as it should before hand.  They agreed to do the work,
>> but not at the flat rate, they would charge for the time required instead.
>> I had all the specs with me and "oversaw" the work.  I ended up paying
>> (don't recall for certain $10 - maybe $15) LESS than their standard "book"
>> rate. Grinned all the way home.
>>
>> So, while I did not personally align the car, I came away from the
>> experience with a satisfaction similar to DIY.
>>
>> Later, JR
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>>
>>> 1a) the Flat Rate Manual - in my experience - tells me (a) the minimum I
>>> will be charged, because they will not charge less (especially if you've
>>> already agreed to pay more)
>>>
>>>
>>> So, DIY is so much more satisfying on $o-o-o-o many levels !
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>
>>
>
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