<VV> Corvairs and seat belts ~ retrofitting to suit new laws ?

[Bill H.]

                                                B"H

Actually Federal law required all US passenger cars to have outboard from lap belts effective January 1, 1964.  My Dad's 64 Fairlane 500 Sports Coupe was built in November 1963 and didn't have them.

Rear lap belts came in for '66.  My 66 Monza has the anchors for shoulder belts under the headliner.

Shoulder belts were mandatory on all US-market passenger vehicles effective January 1, 1968.  That means the early production '68s didn't have them as standard.  

I have a nice set of matching aqua seat belts that I am planning on installing if I ever get the time, G-d willing.

Bill Hershkowitz 66 Monza Sport Sedan 110 PG A/C


--- On Tue, 11/15/11, n5hsr at sprynet.com <n5hsr at sprynet.com> wrote:

> From: n5hsr at sprynet.com <n5hsr at sprynet.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Corvairs and seat belts ~ retrofitting to suit new laws ?
> To: "Charles Lee" <chaz at properproper.com>, "'Bill H.'" <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>, virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 9:58 PM
> Illinois passed a law about 1964 that
> all NEW cars had to be fitted with seat belts effective with
> the 1965 model year, and in order to sell a used car 1961
> model year or later, it also had to be retrofitted with seat
> belts.  We had to get seat belts for our 63 Chevy
> II.  Never used them, they were pretty much useless
> anyway.
> 
> Charles Fregeau
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Charles Lee <chaz at properproper.com>
> >Sent: Nov 15, 2011 6:33 PM
> >To: "'Bill H.'" <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>,
> virtualvairs at corvair.org
> >Subject: <VV> Corvairs and seat belts ~
> retrofitting to suit new laws ?
> >
> >Cops are very superficial (as has been duly shown in
> previous messages) ~
> >they look for the part of the seat belt that comes over
> the shoulder, and
> >sans visual evidence, will pull you over hoping to pay
> for their Christmas
> >party or win the office pool on who gets the most
> tickets.
> >
> >It may eventually be required to retrofit Corvairs with
> shoulder belts (my
> >1969 Monza convertible had them as a "special order"),
> but as of now, if it
> >didn't have them as <standard equipment., you are
> not required to have
> >shoulder belts.
> >
> >I'm not sure if lap belts are required if the car
> didn't have them when new
> >?  And would the cop/court be more interested in
> the potential revenue than
> >reasonably interpreting the law?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> >[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org]
> On Behalf Of Bill H.
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:01 PM
> >To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> >Subject: <VV> Someone is speeding, someone
> pays,so all is good
> >
> >               
>                
>             B"H
> >
> >I was stopped twice by cops.  First time, he cited
> for "not wearing a seat
> >belt."  The two officers looked in and around the
> car, then looked through
> >the open window and saw that I duly had my lap belt
> on.  "I see you ARE
> >waring a belt, drive carefully,
> sir."   They're looking for a shoulder belt
> >:=)
> >
> >Second time, two cops approached the car.  One
> told me he had made a bet
> >with the other guy that the "motor was in the back" of
> my car, and he just
> >wanted to verify.  Imagine getting pulled over by
> a cop car with flashing
> >red lights just to verify where my engine was!
> >
> >He said he had a '67 a long time ago and asked me to
> show him the motor.  I
> >guess he was happy because he had won the bet.
> >
> >Regards to all...Bill Hershkowitz 66 Monza Sport Sedan
> 110 PG A/C
> >
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