<VV> Really not the right forum

FrankDuVal corvairduval at cox.net
Sun Jul 19 22:59:23 EDT 2020

OK, let's start with who on this Virtual Vair list is not overweight, 
doesn't have high blood pressure, does not have a heart condition, never 
had cancer, is not diabetic (or pre-diabetic) and is not over 50.

What do we have left, less than 10% of VVers?

You are preaching to the wrong choir as they say. Go talk to the 
population in general, where the healthy people are. Until then, use 
statistics based on who WE are!

My boss, over 20 years younger than me died from it. Was on a ventilator 
for over a month. Is this one of those deaths due to some other 
condition, so it should not be counted? Get REAL! Last time I 
checked,the virus was not poison, so it cannot kill directly, it has to 
kill by agrvating symptoms, such as breathing difficulties. Have an 
existing heart condition? There yo go, it just got a whole lot worse, 
even though days before you were feeling fine and living your life to 
the fullest.  If you are one of those people I listed at the top of this 
email, and get Covid, and you die, that does not count, since you were 
in poor health to start? I guess according to you older people should 
just give up.

I have way too many Corvair projects to give up and die right now! SO I 
SHALL be cautious in my daily activities, and ASK YOU to do the same. 
Quit being a selfish bastard. Wear a mask when around others.

I do think it is funny you list numbers, but they are just statistics, 
like those numbers/statistics you poo poo. You have an agenda also. It's 
like listening to Fox news.

Now back to some Corvair news.... please!

Frank DuVal

On 7/19/2020 3:17 PM, Hugo Miller via VirtualVairs wrote:
> I did say I was referring to the UK. HK flu killed about 80,000 over 
> two years; this corona thing has killed about 45,000 last time I 
> looked. So despite all the negative propaganda about the US figures, 
> the death tol per head of popuation is half that of the UK.
> Two other factors to be taken into consideration are the massive 
> over-reporting of covid deaths, which are variously described as 
> "covid related" or people who have died "with" the virus, or deaths 
> "conected to" the virus, or of those "who have tested positive" for 
> the virus. If they just reported those who had actually died FROM the 
> virus, we might get a truer picture.
>  And if you strip out the over-75's, those in care homes and diabetics 
> fom the figures, the risk of dying from it is less than one tenth of 
> the 'official' figures.
> Those are the numbers. Dispute them if you wish. But don't try to 
> blind me with emotional appeals.
> On 2020-07-19 17:57, Jim Simpson via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> But I can't let Mr. Miller's assertions go unchallenged.
>> The US death toll from the Hong Kong flu in 1968 is estimated at about
>> 34,000.  The current death toll from CORVID-19 in the US is 143,000 and
>> climbing.  While it leveled off for a short time, it's on the increase
>> again.  The only current preventative measures are masks, social
>> distancing, and general isolation.  If and when an effective vaccine is
>> developed, that may change the equation.  No, this is not comparable 
>> to the
>> Black Death of 1347 - 1351, but neither is this comparable to the 
>> 1968 Hong
>> Kong flu.
>> Now if we can go back to Corvair related topics.
>> Jim Simpson
>> Group Corvair

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